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Even some of those that have a vent in the bath get really cold with the door left open, especially when using an electric space heater. Our bathroom door is open almost all the time, unless it’s being used. Mike

Thanks everyone!! We have been to several local campgrounds in our area just to get things figured out. Boondocking question, we haven't done this yet, but are planning to boondock up to the Adirondack Mountains in January 2023. After we get there we will be in a campground but want to boondock to and from. We want to go play in the snow! 🙂 ❄️ Could anyone tell me what kind of drain on the lithium batteries the furnace would be while not using shore power? We weren't planning on buying a generator just yet. Thank you!! Pic of our new tag! CW Hull #1261.

We installed four BBs in our 2013 Airstream and we have re-installed three (they weren't hooked up correctly) in our 2020 Ollie. Couldn't be happier! Battleborn was great to work with in both installations. Charlie.

John, you and I have about the same build. My big concern and probably the Op's is how I would fit and feel inside the Ollie. Most travel trailers are a close fit for anyone over 6ft. At 6'2" many travel trailers just clear the top of my head and overhead items like AC, vent and doorways often come in contact. It was and is refreshing that the E2 doesn't have that problem and with the bright interior it just feels more spacious. With our visit the other day to finalize our order details I finally put it all to rest as far as fit and comfort. The beds are perfect for both of us, the dinette works just fine and like you said the overall size of the trailer is still sized for easy travels down the road. The bath is a little tight but I've never camped out in the bath much and this will be conducive to conserving water during showers. In and out quick. The term I would use to describe the inside of the LE2 is cozy and comfortable.

Thanks everyone for the pictures-helping with my perspective! Kate

Before attempting to stop the leak on your own, I would advise exhausting all attempts at getting the warranters to fulfill their obligations. By documenting the leak with your detector, you've already proven the fault is either with Trauma or Oliver's installation. Let them sort it out among themselves and recommend the appropriate course of action. Most flair connection leaks are due to either over torquing, improper flair fabrication, or a damaged fitting. If you do get involved, first disassemble the connection and inspect the tubing flair for uniformity and if it had been seated squarely on the mating fitting. Then, use a magnifying glass to inspect the fitting surface for any defect that could cause a leak. Hairline scratches and minute dinges are notorious for this. When reassembling, backup the furnace fitting and torque the flair nut to whatever specification Truma provides, corrected for your crow foot adapter. Then, back it off a quarter turn and torque it again.

Camping in the 20s at night, the toilet seat is VERY cold if the door is closed, with our 2008, with zero heat in the bathroom. More concerned about frozen lines than a cold toilet seat, actually. We only run an electric heater on the rare occasion that we have power. The furnace on low (old school analog thermostat) keeps us around 55 or so. We both sleep well at that temp. But, we both grew up in cold country. Everyone has a different comfort level. I'm good with good blankets or quilts. Others are different. It's all good.

It's not me! I was never licensed in Oregon, and am no longer licensed to practice law anywhere, having retired 5 years ago. But, before you even consider retaining counsel, I recommend you contact Oliver's Sales and Operations Manager Rodney Lomax. His email address is: rlomax@olivertraveltrailers.com. My impression, when I met with him personally about two weeks ago, was that he has a high level of integrity, and cares very much how Oliver is perceived by its customers. I recommend you offer the explanation found in my post above (that the gas line must have been connected to the Varioheat furnace by an Oliver tech during production, because only Oliver could have installed the gas line in the trailer) and politely ask him to intervene to get Oliver to cover the repair under warranty. I will be quite surprised if he doesn't get the problem solved for you, by Oliver, not Truma. Before contacting Mr. Lomax, I would buy the necessary wrenches (it looks to me like 3/8" drive 17mm and 19mm crowfoots will work in that tight space, attached to 3/8" ratchet extensions, and controlled by 3/8" ratchets). You may even be able to get an open-end wrench on one of them--you likely will not know until you try it. I would then hold the "bottom nut" with one wrench while tightening the flare nut with another wrench--carefully, a little bit at a time, until the leak stopped. This is the way brass flare nuts are commonly tightened. If you are not comfortable with that approach, then take it to an RV service center, and ask Oliver to pay the bill.

Oliver said it wasn't a warranty issue so won't cover it. I think your assessment is spot on. Truma will get back to me. Hopefully I can get the crowfoot wrenches from Harbor Freight today. I just need to know if I back off the bottom nut or just hold it in place while I turn that flange nut 1/4 turn until the leak stops. I think the latter on that bottom nut. A bit frustrating. If only I knew a good trial attorney! 😂🤣 John

This is exactly what mine looked like. I was reluctant, at first, to adjust the set screw because both the front and rear of the awning properly retracted and tucked up and in nicely where they're supposed to go. Early this morning I figured I'd try making very small adjustments to the in travel screw and listen to see if the motor was working harder and longer than I thought it should. Like you, I made a couple of small adjustments and it's considerably better now. The awning fabric is no longer visible from the top. There is still a small curve outwards in the center but I can live with it until Spring time when I can get it completely adjusted and corrected. It's getting cold where I am so I needed to remove my batteries which I did after I made the adjustment to the awning. Thank you all very much for the help.

Please do try to arrange a visit with an E2 owner. It's not as hard as it used to be, back in the day. Just call the sales office, and they'll likely find someone within a hundred miles or so. Definitely worth a day trip. (And, we've made lifelong friends, showing our Elite 1. ) Back in 2008, Hohenwald was the only option. Not so, anymore.

Steve, I went through the same thing you are going through and have experimented with this for the last 4 years with our previous trailer. I decided on the exact same system you are looking at BUT, in a move not widely accepted in the RV towing community, I am installing mine in my Tow Vehicle. I have a camper shell (ARE) on my truck and will be installing the Pepwave antenna on top of it (does not need a ground plane, the one Oliver sells DOES but they don't install one). I will install the router inside the shell on the top. I had it re-enforced when I ordered it so it has a 1/2" plywood fiberglassed into the top for support. This approach will allow us to have access to our own internet when we are on day trips away from the trailer and on trips where we don't take the trailer. I have used Pepwave routers for a very long time and am confident we will have internet inside the trailer when the truck is parked outside. As I mentioned, it's an unconventional approach but one that I think will work for us. Also, upgrades will not involve any Ollie work. All thoughts and comments are appreciated. Brian

Hi Everyone- We are getting ready to purchase an Oliver Elite II. We are purchasing this sight unseen, but have done our homework with regards to the Oliver. I have seen plenty of pictures of the exterior, but not one (maybe I'm looking in the wrong place) of people on the inside of the trailer. I've seen loads of the empty interior photos, but not with people actually in it. I'm trying to get a sense of the space with people inside. If anyone has any interior photos with people in it you'd like to share, I would really appreciate seeing them! Thanks in advance- Kate-Delaware

When we had two 100aH Battle Born lithiums running the furnace all night didn’t take them down much at all. You don’t have anything to worry about. Now that I’ve added a third running the furnace won’t be anything I will fret about at all. Mike

Pump pliers to crack your lobsters open! That's awesome! Certainly triggers the saying "Necessity is the mother of invention". I really hope they didn't fall off of your butter tray and ding your beautiful table. That would be absolutely tragic. I now know that we can have lobsters while traveling....because I, too, have Channel locks in my toolbox! Be honest - how long did it take for the smell to leave your camper Dave?!

Bill, That's the beauty of these campers. They're built like a sailboat. Next time you have to cross a river just float it across the water and rehook. Our son lives in Australia so I need to outfit it with a propeller and take my time crossing the ocean. I dread going through a city. On the way back to Oregon I avoided the cities by going around them. That must have been a white knuckle experience for you. I might add a better back up camera if it's like a rear view mirror. Between the regular dash, the tire pressure monitoring system and the back up camera monitor it's beginning to look like a Boeing 777. 🛩️ John

Bill, yes, it's the Furrion camera. I went with that as OTT installs it. I don't know if it's the best on the market, but it works ok. At night the camera picks up glare from the three red lights at the base of the red Oliver sign making it hard to see. I don't know if there's a camera system that replicates the rear view mirror quality of vision. For my purposes, the camera works ok. John

John we have a GMC Diesel Canyon it was very easy to tow no problem at all. Altho I do find the mirrors a little small especially vertical, its hard to see the curb and side of the trailer at the same time I constantly re adjust them while backing up. I was wondering what back up camera do you have is it the one offered by Oliver? Thanks Bill

That looks like Foy's table top. What size did you get? How is it working out? John

Hello, I have made several videos “Oliver Series” that show me inside the Oliver. Here is just one I did about bedding. Should help give you some perspective.

I am 6'2", 200 pounds and it feels spacious to me. Plenty of headroom and the bed doesn't feel cramped in the twin bed model. It looks small from the outside, but not inside. My standard mirrors on my 2017 Ford Expedition allows me to see the traffic as the trailer is the same width. I bought the back up camera for the trailer and that can be left on to see behind you while driving. It's more like a wide angle view, so don't expect the same view as you might have with your rear view mirror. After driving 2500 miles back home, I mostly just used my Ford side mirrors, but would check if anything was directly in back of me with the trailer camera. No pictures of the inside showing people which was your forum post request, but just my observation after a long trip back. John

You can keep it open with magnets, a common mod. How to Bathroom Door Hold Open I used a Nite Ize Steely Ball that I had on hand, it works great. Nite Ize Steely Ball We also keep our bath door wide open most of the time, because we keep our dog water bowl on the shower floor. Our Labrador Retrievers are sloppy drinkers, makes cleanup easier. If we want the bath door nearly closed, but still cracked for ventilation, we turn the latch to lock, it keeps it from closing. If the furnace is running, this gives the heat flow an outlet into the main cabin. I was told the newer models have done away with the latch, and have stronger magnet strips to keep the door closed.

We’ve never camped in that low of temperature, 55 would still be cold to me! I’m like Goldilocks I like it just right, not too hot and not too cold!😂

Do you folks work from home/actually "need" data plans beyond cell phones? I personally think the cradlepoint, and many other add-ons, are far beyond needs of many owners. I have no idea of your needs. I just know it's far beyond ours. I do love the tutorial sessions included with the system you are looking at. Big plus, inclusion in mobile internet resource center, with our old friends Chris and Cherie/Technomadia. Their "technical" Oliver, Orion, was an amazing camper in 2009. They're very smart, very in tune to every new development, and unbiased testing reports. My personal opinion is that many people buy more tech than they need or can handle. Kudos to you for eliminating electronics you don't need .

I talked to Mike Sharp today. Apparently there’s a removable wall in the attic area. Behind there, you only need to drill though the outer hull to get wires through from the antenna. I’ll have to add a waterproof bulkhead fitting to bring the wire bundle through, and figure where to mount the antenna. One important note that I found out on the price in the link I listed before. That 25% off $1080 price is the 5% off sale plus 10% off for Black Friday. PLUS 10% off for belonging to their highest tier members. The non-member sale price is $1224.66 I’m likely going to do their lower membership option at $99 which drops the price $72 from the non-member price, and has what looks like good information and discounts behind their pay wall. Plus access to the Mobile Internet Resource Center’s member only library. I won’t get a data plan until March when I get our trailer. I hope that helps!

Did you call, or open a ticket online? I've found better response and followup with online tickets. Better paper trail, as well. You can always do both. I'm really sorry for your issue, but I'm sure you'll get it resolved.

Yes!!! We keep the bathroom door open as well, we have never needed our furnace, we just use a space heater. If we don’t leave the bathroom door open that cold toilet seat is a shocker! Lol

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I agree with SeaDawg on the visit. I had Oliver set up a visit with a wonderful couple actually about two and half years before we put our deposit down. It confirmed to us that this was the right travel trailer for us. We waited to get the order in and that was the only thing I wish I had back, could of been enjoying it longer. This pic is from our pickup week in July, enjoying lunch inside since the heat index was over 100 in northern Mississippi in late July.

We took this picture when we visited an Oliver for that exact reason:

I find that works very well, to give ventilation exhaust a path. I just leave the bath fan open a bit, not full. Our older Ollies don't have a heated bathroom, so propping the door open also keeps the bath warmer for night time visits in cold weather.

Your comment sparked an idea. I carry a bunch of microfiber towels. Wonder if I could stuff several of them them along the bottom edge of the twin bed blinds? Sort of give the moisture there a place to go (instead onto the bedding) during the really cold nights. Then in the morning pull them out to dry outside as suggested.

No. I used a gas sniffer to locate the area and then confirmed the leaking fitting with soapy water. It's the gas fitting on the Truma Varioheat furnace. I am in the process of getting the best advice on how to tighten that brass fitting. I am waiting.on Truma now. It's a tight spot naturally. John

I too usually crack the Maxxair unit slightly and open the rear streetside window slightly to reduce condensation in cold weather. A warning though; I learned the hard way that you should never open the curbside window when using the furnace because the furnace combustion exhaust is located immediately below the window. I cracked the curbside window above my head once while sleeping on a cold windless night and woke up about 2:00 am with a strong smell of furnace exhaust in the trailer. I won't make that mistake again. I also don't crack the streetside dinette window when it is cold due to the fact it has the potential to confuse the thermostat, hence I open the rear streetside window.

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Note that there are some things that can trigger a false alarm on the propane monitor. A lot of aerosol sprays like air fresheners, hair spray, etc. will trigger it. Our propane alarm will trigger anytime I use Lysol spray anywhere in the camper. Did your alarm trigger shortly after you used any type of cleaner or spray in the camper?

Congratulations on the new trailer! And glad you had a safe trip back home. Just to clear up a detail though, the furnace doesn’t push external air into the trailer or pressurize the cabin. The furnace draws in cabin air that travels through the return vent(s) in the cabin, heats it, and sends it back into the cabin through the supply vents. And it’s isolated from the air used for furnace combustion process. Older Olivers like mine only have one very large rectangular return vent below the curbside bed that allows cabin air to circulate back to the fan intake on the furnace. I’ve seen photos from recent owners that show another return vent in the bathroom now on the newest trailers. With all the windows, fans and door closed, there’s actually very little air exchange of fresh outside air coming into the Oliver, only what gets in through the under hull scuppers. That’s why condensation, just from people breathing, can be such a problem in the Oliver. We try to leave the MaxAir fan open a bit or crack open a window to get some fresh air exchange to help reduce the buildup of moisture inside the cabin when camping in colder weather while running the furnace. Someone posted this graphic about typical moisture that will build up in a trailer.

I didnt want to leave anyone with the impression that the weboost doesnt work. It does. It boosted my verizon signal by one to two bars. On our camping property in nc, i was looking for a boost to tmobile. Wilson/ weboost can't boost zero, which is what i have in tmobile signal there. Thats why i posted the above field test link. Wilson is highly respected. And very effective bidierectional booster. Just doesn't work for me in my back in the woods mountain space in nc. We drove the weboost around the acreage. Interestingly, i got the best signals in a hollow... One att tower showed up, which i didnt expect. But, couldnt connect to... I would have expected better signal high, but it was worse. All depends on available towers in line of sight, i guess. Sherry

I thought it was kind of expensive from OTT and there are a lot on the market for less than 1/2. I didn't think it would be necessary but after getting off the wrong exit on the way home and ended up in the Bronx NY I wish I had one. By the way I crossed the George Washington bridge and the toll was $72.00 Yup you read it right $72.00 There is a guy and wife on youtube called fit RV and he does a ton of modifications to his camper. I know that he installed a back up camera basically to replace his rear view mirror. I will have to watch it again to see what he used. Bill