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No need for a voltmeter here. The error code 6 tells you all you need to know. The Norcold has two separate 12 volt connections. One is for powering the controls and the other for the heater. When these refrigerators are installed in a motorized camper, the control input is wired direct to the battery and the heater input is connected to an "engine running" source. This scheme is intended to prevent the vehicle battery from being run down inadvertently. In a travel trailer where this isn't a concern, the two 12 volt inputs should be jumpered together so both are powered by a single circuit. Definitely open a ticket with service. This is an installation error they should resolve for you warrantee or not.

Last season our Suburban water heater didn't always light on the first try, or even second. Once from inside I heard it light with a startlingly loud WOOF! Not good. On the second trip this season it quit working altogether. This past week I started troubleshooting and found that they aren't that hard to work on. This is what I found. I checked the gas supply by trying the stove and furnace. Both worked, so it's not a gas supply issue. Watched and listened for the gas valve to open and the igniter to cycle. I could hear at least one of the gas valves clunk open and could see the igniter try to spark. I pulled the orifice and orifice tube expecting to find a spider web or mud dauber nest like I did in a previous camper's refrigerator. All clean, so not the issue. There is a high and low temp cut off switch. Neither was tripped. I don't believe the water heater will cycle the ignition circuit if either are faulty or tripped. Mine was still trying to light, so I didn't think this was the issue. On-line reading said to suspect the coils on the gas valve. There are two side-by-side. Both need to open. They are redundant for safety. A local RV/Propane service shop gave me some used coils out of their junk box to try. Swapped out the coils. Still didn't work, coils were not the issue. Early on I should have tried lighting the gas coming out of the orifice tube with a camp butane lighter as the furnace went through its ignition cycle. Finally did. Lit just fine. This would have eliminated any issues with the gas valve, coils, orifice, and orifice tube from my trouble shooting. Learn from my mistake and don't jump ahead too fast. By now I notice a weak to non-existent spark. Early on I thought it might be weak, but now it's not even present. I now believe the spark got weaker as the ignition board warmed up during testing and cycling. All that was left in the ignition circuit to eliminate was the spark igniter and the igniter circuit board. I ordered a both spark igniter and a Dinosaur Igniter board (Model # UIB S w/spade connector) off of Amazon. Since it was the least expensive and the easiest to get at, I Installed the new spark igniter first. Still no love. Unplugged old board, plugged in the new Dinosaur board, turned on the heater switch, the water heater fired right up. The igniter board was bad. Old board wasn't hot, but was warmer than expected. One of the traces on the old board looked a little warm around one of the transistors. I'll have to look it over under a magnifying glass when I get a chance. Might be good for a spare if I can fix it. The existing cover won't fit over the new Dinosaur board. Dinosaur sells their own cover to fit their own boards. I'll put one on my shopping list for someday. The old board was held in with double stick tape. The new board is now in place with some VHB tape I had on hand. That's it. These aren't too complicated. Though I wasn't interested in scheduling an appointment, the local RV service center was booked 6 weeks out. Minnesota summers are short and I enjoy hot water in the camper. Maybe this will help someone else troubleshoot and save a trip to the service center. Ken (Safety disclaimer - Follow at your own risk. Beware of gas, high voltage from the igniter circuit, sharp edges on the water heater sheet metal, and the pointy end of the screwdriver.)

Chris, Just returned home from having fun at the Dentist. Ordered mine from Amazon, but buys lots of stuff from etrailer, too. Checked amazon orders from several years ago, it's a 3" valve: https://www.valterra.com/product/waste-valve-body-3-with-coupler-seals-hardware/

I swear I did not feed them after midnight but we may have gotten them wet.

Great job. Looks better than mine, but apparently my sign will remain on the Ollie during a category 5 hurricane. 😁

So after struggling and cursing at my caulking gun and the stupid thick expensive marine sealant above.. Ive had success! Used the sealant as the adhesive and the outer caulk line. A little more detailed cleanup and I will be golden!

I hope this goes to the right spot. First try at the forum I have been a big fan of the Oliver Trailer Forum. It seems unique with the ability to really get a great feel for the product. About 3 years since first contact with Oliver and two years bribing my wife to go to Hohenwald we are awaiting our September 2021 delivery. All of that to just say thanks to you all Especially the long timer Oliver Faithful. You folks and your helpful answers and attitudes I believe sell a lot of trailers. Start with a good product. Then with the g-force of you folks on the forum you can’t beat it. So with my Dream Girl by my side hope to see you some day on the road Tina and Mike

Sounds like you both may have an AAEI on board (Alien Aquatic Elf Infestation). You'll want to have that checked out. Actually, the check valve in the water pump is sticking open allowing the city water to back fill the tank through the pump. Disconnect the city water and run the pump for a while. This will usually reset the check valve and all will be good.

Ours did that occasionally. To remedy, while hooked up to city water and getting overflow from the fresh tank, I turned on the water pump for 15 or 20 seconds. Turn it off and the problem is resolved. There’s probably an explanation that involves physics and fluid mechanics but as long as it works I’m happy.

If it is a difficult situation where a large trailer is being backed in to a site with lots of trees or other obstacles, maybe. I’ve had a couple of offers but I always politely refuse. Normally, we don’t use any hand signals at all. Carol quietly talks to me on our phones or our little Motorola’s if there’s no cell service. She stands at the end of the site, no walking backwards and if I can’t see her I don’t move. We always do a site check before backing in to determine location of utilities, if there are any, or just where we want the door to open. Routines are a good thing. Mike

Since I'm dealing with a number of messy issues with my new to me LE2, I wanted to shift my attention and share with y'all a couple recent mods that I'm proud of. Some were the genius of others on this forum that I copied and some are my own.

We were traveling with our Norcold 4.5 refrigerator on Auto. We had the LP off and were running on DC. We check this too by pressing the mode button and the LED illuminates showing DC. When we got to the campground where we don’t have shore power we turned on the LP. I checked the stove at some point and turned on the Truma outside and the at the remote inside. After a few hours I happen to check the VictronConnect Smart Battery Shunt numbers using my iPhone and Bluetooth and discovered extraordinary draw. I immediately checked the refrigerator by pressing the mode button and confirmed it was on DC. Several iterations of this with the Norcold setting of Auto always showed DC when I pressed the mode button. I finally changed to manual LP and the LED F was displayed indicating an LP issue. I couldn’t understand why the stove and Truma would work and the Norcold had a code, but power cycling the refrigerator after relighting the stove for one more check resolved the issue. I suspect the code was suppressed by the Auto setting on the refrigerator. My warning is to not trust the Auto setting without checking the actual operation by pressing mode or setting to the desired setting manually.

Hello to the Oliver world, my wife and I have been a fan of the trailers and the craftsmanship for a few years. We're pleased to be able to become the new owners of Hull #36, bringing it back to TN after a long stay in MN where is was taken care of wonderfully be Kent and Mary, and Terry and Catherine before them as I understand it. Very gracious and interesting folks who have treated us so well during our transfer. We live in East TN, a few hours drive from Hohenwald. We have lots to learn and are excited to start this new chapter. We've been T@B owners for many years, and love our T@B and it's community. But as our life changes, we believe this is a great next next step. Lee and Linda

After recently upgrading to new 30 gallon LP tanks I decided to add a thin piece of rubber door mat to the shelf that the bottom tank rings sit on. I simply patterned it and cut it to fit the shelf. $4 for the mat at Wally World and 15-20 minutes to install. This should help prevent metal on metal corrosion from forming between the bottom of the LP tank ring and the metal shelf. I lightly sanded and cleaned the shelf, taped it off, and shot it with a rattle can coat of flat black rust preventive paint. Happy Camping!

It takes a little time to obtain your correct setting for the Andersen WDH adjustment. I have been running for the past several years with 8 treads showing and I think for my set up it is the best. Before I disconnect the Andersen's whale tail I always run the adjusting nut to zero threads showing, that gives additional chain for re-connection at any angle; it only takes a few extra minutes.

Right out of home. We supplement as needed. For long term travel we end up with almost everything from home We will frequent the local farmers markets and such. . RB

This is a nice place for a layover, especially if you want to remain hitched. 27 level sites, mostly pull through. Clean facilities, free laundry. $40 a night but for some reason we didn't have to pay. We must have looked like big spenders - little did they know it was past our bedtime. https://www.ladyluckcaruthersville.com/ [attachment file=20190612_084935 (5).jpg]

Dream Girl... I can almost see it now.. A caricature of a Dream Girl, like on WWII aircraft, on the front of the Oliver! Welcome from Maine, and we will see you around a campfire somewhere...

Here is a pic of our battery tray in our 2020 LEll. No issues to date. It appears quite robust and solid.

Payload will get most folks well before towing capacity. My F150 has stated tow capacity of 14000. I’d never be able to tow that and take anything. Not even sure I would have enough payload for a driver, lol.

I've found I get a faster response by opening a service ticket. You can do that by clicking on the "home" button at the hamburger menu, then scroll to the bottom, and click on "service center"

If you decide to run it on LP while traveling, don't forget to shut it off BEFORE stopping to refuel. Open flame and gasoline fumes are an invitation for disaster.

Wow, great job. Any sign shop can recut that vinyl appliqué for you and make it say whatever you might want.

Don't be too concerned about the 5200 sealant. If it's not leaking now, it's unlikely you would every need to remove it again. I did use some of that stuff to affix a metal plate to the roof to stick a magnetic antenna to. Then I decided I wanted to move it. It's still there...and will be, apparently.

If you are planning to mainly camp where there is electricity you don't need any solar or fancy batteries. Just plug up and enjoy the stay. The fridge will be running on AC as will the water heater, air conditioner and microwave. Your batteries will be charging and all your 12 volt accessories will be running off your converter. If you will need heat, bring along a small electric heater. Using this plan, I think you will do nicely without any propane. If you decide to spend a night without an electrical source, you will be fine with just the standard batteries.

We started getting organized today for the Maine not rally. We de-winterized today. The Ollie seems to be in good shape. Just needs a wipe down and we should be ready to go. I will start the fridge the day before. We are only an hour from the campground. We will load up next Monday morning and head to the campground. We are looking forward to seeing some Ollie folks we know and meeting some new folks too. Hopefully we get great weather and the black flys and mosquitoes stay away. Ticks too!! See ya next Monday.

It took me about 8 hours to remove the previous sealant and sign. Guess I was lucky being able to remove the sign without damage to the sign and re-use it. Used several layers of micro fiber cloth under the modified wood paint stir stick tool to help lift the sign preventing surrounding fiberglass damage. Did not see any signs of epoxy under the sign on our 2015 LE2, but the sealant used to install the sign was very tough to remove. Also used white electrical tape to temporarily seal the lens with sealant removed. Did not want to pull off gel coat with stronger adhesive tape when tape was removed.

Well, no matter the brand, there will always be repairs. Remember, earthquakes on wheels in the weather. Good luck. You can also order a new Oliver lens, from what I have heard, if you're not too mad at them. LOL Hang in there. A Jayco would have fallen apart by now you'd be gutting it from the inside. LOL I lucked out and the previous owner kept this one under cover most of the time.

If you’re around Flagstaff, Walnut Canyon National Monument is worth at stop as is Sunset Crater Volcano National Monument. Enjoy the dry weather! Mike

Coffee, and Tea for sure! We're on Keto diets for two years, no sugar and very little carbs. Occasionally we fall off of the "no sugar" wagon. 🙂 Bacon & eggs are OK! 👍

Just remember, if the guide can't see the mirror, the driver can't see the signals. Then again, most of you probably have newer trucks, with backup camera on the trailer. We don't.

Whatever kinds of food you like to eat. And cashews. John Davies Spokane WA

Coffee, beer, wine, nachos, Cheetos, popcorn and donuts. If my wife is coming along then some other stuff. 😇

I retired from the railroad. Debbie and I use railroad train movement (lamp) hand signals, if dark with flashlight, for backing, move forward, and stop. If more than one person tries to give signals or person giving signals is out of sight, the Ollie movement stops. We don't worry about air brake application, hand brake application, and release air brake signals! 😁 Thanks for the tip! My wife and I will be practicing the hand signals routine before our pick up date next month.

I retired from the railroad. Debbie and I use railroad train movement (lamp) hand signals, if dark with flashlight, for backing, move forward, and stop. If more than one person tries to give signals or person giving signals is out of sight, the Ollie movement stops. We don't worry about air brake application, hand brake application, and release air brake signals! 😁

For my money JD hit it squarely on the head - emergency should be the only reason to get agitated. - What your in a hurry to go sit in your flipping camp chair? please. But - todays cultural norms lead to very different expectations - me, me, me ,me..... Somewhere in Idaho- a very curvy and tight CG, a fellow in a very large MH was stopped squarely in the middle of the one way road. I waited a few minutes, nothing, I got out asked what was issue - MH would not start. I couldn't help, so my only recourse, back up to somewhere I could turn Ollie and me around. Getting upset had no benefits. Another time in Glacier - as I pulled up, and backed in to a site -- that the guy behind me thought was " a not gonna happen" - I nailed it first try (whew) he gave me a ovation. and they all went on their way. I am sure they were all groaning at first glimpse. Cindy and I continue to improve in the backing and parking phase - sometimes it is great sometimes it is not. We do our best - and try to give others the benefit of the doubt . I have a phrase for the impatient - but it is not for this forum. As Tony Horton says - do your best - forget the rest. RB

You could offer, but most people will refuse. Different people use different methods and hand signals. Paul and I rarely have to speak to each other. We just use the same hand signals we've used forever. Handheld radios are great for many people. No shouting, one hand operation for the guide, and the driver will hear what the guide is saying without having to touch the radio.

Y'all would be amazed at the things I've seen! Two ways are always a great idea.. I've seen absolute divorces created through backing trailers! I've only been in one situation with my Casita that was tricky and stressful. I imagine the learning curve is going to be a little higher with my ILOVHER because of her added girth and height. Let's hope I stay married!

Offer politely to assist if they are having obvious trouble backing, but be aware that you will assume a whole lot of responsibility. If he misinterprets your signals and bashes his trailer into a rock, he will be mad at you, guaranteed. I recommend that everyone carry a pair of cheap FRS hand held radios (walkie talkies) for those occasions when your cell phone won’t work. Yelling and frantic arm waving is simply crude and ineffective. If you arrive at a tricky site, and your spotter steps out and calmly guides you back using a radio, it makes you look like pros and it should really impress onlookers. 😀 I started carrying them decades back, long before cell phones. Once I got our rig trapped in a gas station by a stalled truck, and had to back out onto a busy four lane city street. My wife was pretty miffed that she had to stand in the street blocking traffic! It was truly embarrassing all around, but the process went quickly with the radios. I personally would never ever EVER actually drive the TV for the guy. That would be a huge liability. John Davies Spokane WA

Provide assistance if you can.

Not knowing the answer to this question would it be polite or appropriate to get out and be an extra set of eyes helping be an additional spotter or would that not be helpful?

We make it practice to always try and just be patient and just decent. Cooler heads will always prevail. We had a situation last year at a CG where we pulled up to a site we reserved and it was occupied. The couple had just completely set up unfortunately at our site. We greeted them both nicely and showed them our res on our iPhone. He checked his res and said…you are right. The guy was super nice and apologized and I offered to help him move which he declined. We just patiently waited for them to move to their site and actually got to know them a little and really we enjoyed each other’s company. I mentioned to him later that was the quickest most efficient move I had ever seen. We both got a chuckle. I don’t think his wife was very happy with him at first, but it all worked out. I don’t always have the unrealistic expectation that things will always go super smooth, but decency and respect go a long way in my experience.

Yep! Most of the people in camp grounds are there to - camp? When I camp I certainly have a bunch to do - make the fire, make the meal, go for a hike, catch that last fish, lay in the hammock, drink that adult beverage, and the list goes on and on - it just never ends! The gall, the nerve of some people making me wait for them to back into a site! Don't they understand that I've got things to do which are certainly much more important than their backing safely into a site? Courtesy? Politeness? Concern for my fellow human? Nah - I've got "really important" things to do.😬

I ran a NF campground and it's courtesy to allow time for people to get into their site, but everyone is usually running late and in a hurry to get to theirs on a Friday. Unfortunately, many of the campgrounds built in the mid 60s weren't meant for the monstrosities people tow now days and a lot of jockeying is sometimes required. (I still have nightmares over the ruts created! Sometimes I would allow people to come in the opposite direction on a one way to help facilitate an easier backin...with a golf cart assist. I was always amazed how many people wouldn't tap or kick down their ruts! But, sadly there is always a few people annoyed having to wait.

Some folks may be impatient, like said earlier if I'm already backing in, I continue backing watching Debbie give signals. One time I was trying to back into a campsite I already paid for on line, but our name had not been placed on the site post. Another couple was standing on the site when I started to back in, they wanted to camp on it with their tent. Got out and told them I already paid for it and to talk to the Ranger with questions. They eventually left after a short discussion. Yep, when taking check rides for different pilot's certificates and ratings, sometimes the examiner would try to distract you during the preflight walk-around and cockpit checks. I learned to place my finger on the last completed checklist item and stop everything I was doing until the distraction stopped, then continue where I left off. Like Mike said, it's difficult to talk to folks during certain operations.

Another thing…. several times, while I was backing into my site with Carol back there guiding me, I’ve had someone come up to the truck and start asking me about my Oliver. Normally, I’m happy to talk about my trailer - but not when I’m trying to back in or when I’m dumping, hitching, unhitching, etc. I try to be polite, but…. 😤.

We drove from Asheville to Franklin NC today to pick up some scaffolding. I only saw a few stations with bags on some of the pumps . I think the crisis is over in Western North Carolina, at least on the highways. It was a really pretty day for a drive.

A big part of my fascination with the Midwest is probably my upbringing on the Minnesota farm. Seeing and hearing the corn grow, eating tomatoes and peas fresh from the plants in the huge garden.Riding the tractor with Dad, tending chickens with Mom. The amazing smell of new cut hay. Riding my pony, and the odd calf... Fording the usually shallow creek between us and nearest neighbors, chasing butterflies, finding tiger lilies and lady slippers in the woods.. The barn dad built from lumber he cut and milled himself still stands. He always told me I helped, but all I did was paint very low boards, and pull nails for him... I was six.but I sure loved being there with Dad. Life on the farm was pretty simple, but rich. We depended on each other, our family, and our neighbors. None of us had a lot, but we all had about the same...as my childhood friend Rose says, we had no idea others had more, so no big deal Those farm years, before we moved to "town", gave me a huge appreciation for life, green, and simple. I'd love to go back to those days. Easy, no. My parents worked unbelievably hard. Satisfying, certainly. And that big prairie sky... I remember laying under the oak in the pasture, watching the clouds. Imagining the rest of the world on the cloud figures. Since then, I've been lucky enough to see a lot of the world. But, you know, those cornfields are pretty darn amazing, too. Sherry