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The only good thing about the light is they will probably turn it off after a short time. Unlike those that build a stinking fire and go to bed with it still smouldering.

I'm guessing that Oliver Service would be able to tell you - assuming that you opened or added to a Service ticket. Good luck! Bill. p.s. We do not have the same type of installation as you do. but, when I was having similar issues with my 2016 I wound up taking the facia trim off, shimming (with scrap pieces of wood) the microwave in such a manner that a earthquake would not move it and replaced that trim. Haven't had a problem since.

It's like looking directly into the sun.

Here you go, in the 2023 manual, there’s more good stuff here

Yes, I like it a lot, works wonderfully, I don’t have to use the latch, I can leave the door open when there is a breeze and the door stays where I leave it….and no more fly away door!😊

Ya just got to keep those eyes open these days.😃 Bill

Ok if it will help, here's the plumbing diagram of a 2017, not sure if it’s the same as your 2016.

@Nan To answer your second question. Do a price comparison for sure. I recently purchased (2) AGM batteries for my Diesel Super Duty at Batteries Plus and they were really great to work with. https://www.batteriesplus.com/store-locator/nc/gastonia/batteries-plus-423 I would not go with Lithium if your know you are never going to boondock. Patriot🇺🇸

I have experienced some mixed results trying to charge my lithium batteries (same as your 390Ah) with a 15 amp circuit and with a shorter 16gauge extension cord. I bumped up my 50' extension cord to 12 gauge... and now currently only use a 20 amp circuits...and now no problems. I have been surprised at how much the lithium batteries pull...the Lithionics app says 45~50amps... when it's bulk charging. Could it be that the mixed results reflect how much energy the battery is looking for? If it's near the top of its charge it switches from a fast and hard 45~50 amps to a much lower 15~20 amp draw. Again, this voltage is all from the Lithionics app. Note: all of my settings are whatever Oliver originally set for me.

Well - Its a bit of a long story and - sorry - no pics. When originally delivered the microwave in my Ollie wasn't installed properly - a bracket that supposedly held the microwave in place from the top simply wasn't there. This caused the MW to simply bounce around in the "box" where it resides with only the four trim screws that hold the face plate onto the outside fiberglass actually holding the entire unit. As you might imagine, those four 3/4 inch screws didn't hold much in place for very long. Supposedly, the fix was to drill a 4 inch hole through the fiberglass floor of the storage cubbie located directly above the MW. Then remove the MW and install the correct missing bracket. Slide the MW back in place and "blindly" screw two self tapping screws through the inner MW support box (this is accessed through the 4 inch hole mentioned above). While this "fix" stopped some 80% of the MW movement, the fact was that the MW was still only held in place via those two screws and bracket at the top of the MW. This meant that the MW could still move around at the bottom. So, once again, I removed the trim plate, installed "lumber" on both the sides and the front and back of the MW such that the MW simply had nowhere to "run". The trim plate hides all of the ugliness so I didn't have to worry about being pretty. Note that my MW sits on rubber feet which gave me room to wedge this lumber all around the bottom of the MW while at the same time wedging it against the side walls, back and front of the interior cabinet. The last piece of wood was actually "tapped" into place at the front of the opening where there is a bit of a lip. Hope this helps. Bill p.s. I'd take the trim plate off and take pics for you but those trim screws have been in and out of the fiberglass a number of times such that I'd rather not deal with the possibility of repairing a stripped screw at this point.

Why OTT initial builds do not come with a master battery bank cut-off switch is not understood by this Oliver owner. I'm sure there's an explanation and that some of the owners on the forums know the answer - just haven't had the occasion to ask them back at the Mother Ship, "...why no DC cut-off switch?" One could make a safety argument for having the switch accessible from the outside in the case of a fire inside. Securing the battery bank immediately after escaping an interior fire situation could save some of the trailer, or certainly keep responders from experiencing electrical burns while attending to a trailer on fire scenario. Not that it means much, but our vintage AS rigs ('72 Overlander and '84 Sovereign) came with such a switch, FYI.

I have never charged my batteries (lithium platinum package) with 15A shore power, but I believe when doing this you have to change setting #28 in the Xantrex app from 25 to 15.

Those back-flow preventers (Allows water to flow only in one direction - note the tiny arrow on each of them in the plumbing graphic).

I'd agree with @Geronimo John. We don't have lithium in our Ollie, but we do have lithium powering our house, and a car, phones, vacuum, rtc. Best practice is (typically) not continuous charge, but let it go 50 to 85 per cent, full charge occasionally, to restore the algorithm calculations setting 26 on the xantrex means charging off, as it's not "ignition charging." IS the inverter actually off? Have you checked to see if water heater was inadvertently left on, in electric setting, if you have standard 6 gallon? That's been a big draw for some folks, in the past. just a thought... Best of luck.

I have a filter in my other camper. It is fine until it is time to winterize. I have to take it completely apart. Don't forget to put a bypass system in place when you hook it up.

My chili recipe can solve that problem! GJ

Some lithium batteries manufacturers, such as BattleBorn, do NOT want their batteries on a continuous charge when in storage and not being used. Keeping them on float at 100% is bad for their batteries. Recommend you ask that question to your battery mfg just to be sure. GJ

Funny you mention the mother ship reference. You'll find a lot of folks have an appreciation for the Olivers, but don't get what kind of folks would spend so much on a "small camper with no slides". All I can say is if you haven't owned one you will never understand. It is a camper designed for a certain kind of camping couple in mind. That's why when you watch the testimonials, those that have an Oliver usually knew from the first sight of one that it was the camper for them. Just an FYI, you will find that some of the manuals posted on the Oliver University have updated versions available from the manufacturer web site. Just a few, but the few revisions contain import information. I wouldn't go looking at this point, but when you have your camper, if something doesn't make since in a manual, just look to see if there's an updated version available. Much of the tech equipment on board gets updated regularly by the manufacturer, so just be aware.

We added a strap to help hang onto the door on windy days.

For the exact reason you've described above, we installed Lippert "Controlled Motion" Hinges last April from eTrailer: We've logged in excess of 7,500 miles since then during much of our windy springtime season and this simple upgrade has saved the bacon on several occasions. The 2 additional hinges make the door "stiff" to open but makes it stay where you want it - we've not used the exterior door latch at the bottom of the door since installing them. For us - this was a simple fix for a condition that literally can come out of nowhere... Cheers!

https://www.slashgear.com/1440425/goal-zeros-skylight-camping-light/ Won't be any stars to see when the neighbors start firing these things up. 😪

Not boondocking and assuming you are on shore power 100% of the time: I would answer just get one 12V battery and call it done. COSTCO. Also, keep in mind that your 12V battery system also fires off the brake magnets in an emergency breakaway situation. So having at least one is a must for several perspectives. GJ

Believe me when I mention that there are actually several threads about this very topic. Just don't make us all LOL by changing the entrance light to a red one that you switch on and off. Since I would not have ever personal knowledge of such matters, I'll just postulate it must be Ferengi humor. GJ

I was thinking that we would replace the filters annually, being part-timers. This is the time of year to empty the plumbing lines and tanks. I never have used any kind of RV antifreeze. So, I could change the filters after blowing out the lines when the filter canisters should be half empty. Once with our Bigfoot I had forgotten to reduce air pressure on my shop compressor prior to blowing out the lines. Was somehow lucky that time, but it's usually set down at 50 PSI or less. I've drained the HW heater 3 times now, since our June Oliver purchase, and every time there is sooooo much scale (just did it again yesterday). I use a cleaning wand and more and more scale keeps coming out. I could have literally filled a gallon jug with scale so far! I have a new anode to install this time. I'm also going to work the OTT vinegar procedure to remove scale from the cold-water lines soon. Yes, it would be easier to have an external unit, no installation required, though if I can get it nicely installed, it would be so much easier at every campsite or fill-up of the fresh holding tank.

Thanks all for your advice, once again guilty of ‘overthinking’! Take pleasure in knowing you have successfully changed my ‘continuous charge’ mind set. Followed up on GJ’s recommendation and confirmed my batteries are to be maintained in the same manner as his BattleBorns, as are lithiums in general. Also to MAX Burner’s point, I have ordered a master cutoff switch to lessen the worrisome battery drawdown issue. To SeaDawg’s point, I don’t think the inverter is ever actually Off unless the battery power is totally isolated; that 1Ah draw indicated on the EMS is likely that of the inverter in ‘standby mode’, or am I ‘overthinking ‘ again!

I do believe I have high jacked and sidetracked this thread and I sincerely apologize.

Went back through this thread. It was October they shorted up theicrpwave and replaced the trim for the 3rdntime, not this past February So I went from late October 2022 until 2/27/23 when I discovered the new crack. I need to check and see if I started another ticket in February, which O would have been still iny 1 year Not really concerned either way. JD

Thanks so much. I haven't completely gone through everything in Oliver University so I hadn't seen this. This is good stuff, though, and didn't want to pass up the opportunity.

That sucks. I am a firm believer in KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). The filter I have is a three-part system. It came with the trailer. Thankfully, it has a bypass, so now it NEVER gets used. I only use a water pressure regulator with a screen filter. If we want filtered water to drink, we use a tabletop filtration system.

I really like Meriwether Lewis. If you haven't been there, you can get water from the spigot located on the back side of the water fountain which is located right in front of the restrooms. The price is right - free. And, its located only about 7 miles from the Service area. Bill p.s. if you need GPS just let me know. p.p.s. there is no dump at ML. But, you can always dump at the Oliver Service area.

I'm not quite a Trekkie but I certainly love me some science fiction. Probably going to have to mount some lights under the egg now.

Either that or Meriwether Lewis CG. Either way, it will provide a good opportunity to shake out all the bugs.

Nothing like people that go camping and bring the city with them.

@John Dorrer: Try sending a few pix of the affected area - we may be able to come up with a collective "FIX" so you won't have to just "live with it". There's always a work-around, brother!

LOL

We've been doing this. My wife also had a dream about camping in this trailer. She's probably even more excited about it than I am, and that is saying a lot.

The "family experience" is definitely up my wife's alley. She is an incredibly outgoing people person. I, however, am opposite of that in many ways. Regardless, we camp because of nature. We enjoy peace and quiet, long walks in the woods, and the occasional Shiner Bock fireside with friends. If you ever met us in person, you would remember my wife and our crazy little dog and maybe the quiet guy sipping his beer at the edge of the fire ring. Happy trails.

Thanks, and yes, I am experienced. Not only with campers, RVs in general but backpacking. I would consider myself the intrepid outdoors enthusiast who generally gets so caught up in work I have to remind myself to get out of the house. To be honest, I'm not sure why I got so caught up in Oliver that I threw a lot of cash at them. Perhaps I recognized the quality when I saw it. Maybe it was the massive number of positive reviews. It could be the trail of worthless campers and RVs littering the highway of my past. Maybe I'm just crazy. Whatever it is, I am planning to enjoy this. In fact, I already have. This forum and Oliver University, as you have said, is quickly becoming my friend and a source of great knowledge. I have already watched almost every video I can find. Some, I have watched multiple times. Now I am delving into the forums. Great stuff here. Thanks for the welcome.

Let's just stick to answering the questions asked. Which you mostly did, thank you very much. @GAP please pass on John’s very thorough explanation of the retrofitting. I doubt it could be improved upon very much. The new owners probably have a valid (albeit personal) reason in wanting to change out the composting toilet for a regular one because there are also "SOOOOO many reasons" to not want one. One reason is medical. Most folks don't discuss their intimate bowel habits with the other members on an open forum. Even though it's true that 90% of new buyers choose the composting toilet, there is a plethora of medical reasons that these are not the necessarily the best toilet choice for everybody. The greatest obstacle to properly using one may well be the need to keep solids and liquids separate. What if your “solids” are usually mostly liquid. There is a wide range of problems that can cause chronic diarrhea; some of the most common causes include irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), inflammatory bowel disease (Crohn disease and ulcerative colitis), mal-absorption syndromes, like celiac disease, in which food cannot be digested and absorbed. There are also infections such as C. diff (also known as Clostridioides difficile). There are, as well, many other less common causes of chronic diarrhea. There is probably no drug on the market that doesn’t include “diarrhea” among its many side effects. Ten percent of Americans have Type II diabetes. The most prescribed oral medication for that disease is Metformin, but its gastrointestinal adverse effects such as diarrhea, flatulence, nausea and vomiting can be a barrier to its use and quite possibly make using a composting toilet very difficult. I seriously doubt there has ever been a discussion between a sales rep and a potential new owner that checked off 'composting toilet' on their order list about any of these issues.

Thanks for the tips and warm welcome. I will definitely get in touch with my sales rep. In my case it was Chase Inman, but it looks like he handed me off to Josh since the last few emails I received were from him. Chase's wife is sick so I'm sure he has his hands full. I planned to spend at least one night at the Oliver shakedown CG, though I took the entire week off, so I have the option of staying longer if needed. I'm not a newbie to camping, so I'm aware that even with the incredible build quality that goes into an Oliver, it is still a complex beast full of outsourced equipment. I am hoping this will be an amazing experience for me and my wife, but I'm going into this with a headlight and wrenches on standby.

This is very true. The size of our Olivers can be a positive - it tows effortlessly and is very well behaved. If the truck fits through, so will the trailer. Smaller campsite? No problem. Tight turn to get in? No problem. Tight gas station? Less of a problem. Extended rainy weather? Now we’re talking a negative. We’ve been cooped up inside for a few days and it can be frustrating. Fortunately those times get greatly outweighed by the non-rainy days. Also, for cold weather camping we’ve been very happy with our Clam and firepit, as do others. We can sit outside in cold weather with the firepit in the Clam and enjoy some room to spread out a bit. Mike

Jason: Good morning, welcome, and CONGRATS on your decision to join the Oliver Family. Not using the term, "family" lightly, you'll learn and experience that owning an OTT opens up a true "family-oriented community" to you and your spouse. IMO, Oliver Owners are a wonderful group of consumers with a long laundry list of common behaviors, attitudes, expertise, and above all - the love of seeing our country from what you refer to as a small (we call it "cozy") camper. Many enjoy that view from a commercial campground, Harvest Host site, a USFS area, or a non-designated public land boondocking location. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter, as every Oliver Owner has their own and unique style/interest in "camping mode" - but we typically all come together and make new friends, share experiences, work out challenges, fix systems, and modify our trailers through these Forums. As noted above, don't be shy, ask questions, use the Oliver University link often, and expect that "The Wait" over these next two months will fly-by at Mach speeds. We all look forward to hearing about your "pick-up day" experiences and the many "Oliver Travels" you'll log in the future. Cheers, A & D

You will received training on all of the systems in the trailer the day you take delivery. Although excellent, it is like "drinking from a fire hose." To get better prepared to absorb all of that important information, review all of the videos available online in Oliver University in the meantime, until you could "teach the class." Also, plan to spend at least 3 days after pickup inspecting the trailer and testing all of the systems. We live in Idaho, so we spent 3 days at David Crockett State Park (had to do that, as my middle name is Crockett) thoroughly inspecting and testing everything we could before beginning the return trip to the West. We found a few defects, which the Oliver Service Department jumped on immediately after we arrived back in Hohenwald. We considered their response exemplary. We took delivery on our Elite II exactly one year ago today, November 10, 2022. The Oliver Service Department has honored the 1-year warranty better than any company with whom I have ever dealt. And, although after expiration of the warranty Oliver is no longer responsible to pay for parts or labor, they will still provide valuable advice in response to a service ticket. I have particularly high regard for Jason Essary, Oliver's Service Manager.

First, Congrats Second, Welcome Your story sounds a lot like ours

Jason - I'll add my "welcome" to this growing list. Yes, you have bought a camper. But, you have also "bought" a company that is more than likely actually different from any other company you have dealt with in the past. So many companies simply give lip service to things like quality and customer service but if your experience is like mine - that is all it is, "lip service". Yes, Oliver is not perfect. But, they will do what they say they are going to do, when they say they are going to do it. And, they will keep at it until any "problem" they created is fixed - not with a Band-Aid but actually fixed. The next couple of months is actually a very short time. You have a bunch to do. It is very helpful that you appear to be experienced campers with an RV. But, while the basic systems in an Oliver are much like those in other campers, there are nuances that are different enough that knowing about them prior to taking delivery should make your early experiences much easier. This Forum and the Oliver University are your friends and you should make yourself very familiar with them prior to delivery. We are here to help you! Just shout. Bill

welcome to the family. I'm sure you will be pleased with your experience with Oliver the company and the camper they are building for YOU! That's the hardest thing to realize when going through this process, that you placed and order for a camper and Oliver has your name on it from the moment you sign your agreement, and that lasts for as long as you own your Oliver. This is hard to grasp especially if you've had multiple poor experiences with campers and dealers in the past. Either unfortunately or fortunately most Oliver owners have had many of the same experiences, or know of them first hand, and that's why they are now Oliver owners. They didn't give up on camping and their dreams, they just figured out the best way to make it a rewarding experience. BTW, if you have paid your initial installment and they have you on the build schedule, you have a VIN and a Hull number. Ask your sales rep to get that information for you. We worked through Josh White and he forwarded those numbers to us as soon as we were added to the build schedule. This is useful as you can get insurance quotes and other important information if you have the VIN. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of the moment come delivery day. Just try to stay focused, there's actually much to do now until that date arrives. And go in knowing that these are still built by people trying to keep up with a production schedule. Mistakes happen and flaws get missed during QC processes. Oliver will make anything that needs attention right, and you will be their priority when you are there to pick up your camper. Try to allow time in your schedule to go through a good shakedown while in Tennessee. And anything that is found later is still important to them. Also remember its a high quality camper but they still have to rely on the quality control of their suppliers. Things still break. Oliver will help make it right if it does. Congratulations and enjoy the experience. It's unique to the industry just as the camper is unique in every way. Make sure to sign up for the owners rally in mid May. It's a great experience and you will make a lot of friends.

Jason, congratulations and welcome to this benign cult of enthusiasm!

Do not cut the wire pigtail on the camera. The will not allow any credit if you do.

Chris, If you want to save your self future rear view cam headaches consider ordering the Furion cam that Oliver now installs. I had the Voyager and it had water intrusion. The gal at Voyager sent me the replacement admitted that they have had many of these rear cams returned due to leaks/fog up. The seals in the Voyager just are not that good and over time leak. Personally I would not reinstall another Voyager based on a google search of owner user reviews and what their customer service rep told me. On one of my Oliver service visits I had the new Furion cam installed and it’s serving me well. If you’re going to all the trouble of a replacing your cam, maybe consider a clean and neat install/upgrade to a Furion. Happy Trails, Patriot🇺🇸