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@MarkV and I just returned home from one of our first trips in Olivia (hull #953), this one 10 nights of boondocking/dry camping in the Pike National Forest at around 7500 feet. TLDR: we had an absolutely spectacular time camping and mountain biking with a pile of our friends. Olivia's systems performed nearly flawlessly, and we could have stayed off-grid for at least 10 more days. Some notables from this trip: 1. SOLAR/BATTERY: We have the platinum package - 630 Ah lithionics, 340 W solar, 3000W inverter- coupled with an external 200W Renogy Solar Suitcase. This system performed flawlessly, although we did have an issue with the portable suitcase -- its output is 20A, but the inline fuse at the Ollie's solar port is 10A. Based on the wire guage sizes along the entire portable system (10) we made the decision that a 20A fuse would be just fine, since the wires are rated up to 30A and the total input into the batteries would never exceed the maximum recommended by Lithionics. Even in the brightest direct sun, the Renogy never put out more than 17-18A. Success, but I do intend to call Oliver and discuss with service. We did not skimp on our electrical useage -- baked cookies and a couple of meals in the convection microwave, toast in the toaster every morning, made at least 3 meals in the InstantPot, frothed hot milk every morning, held 2 "boondock refill sessions" where we ran the water pump for what seemed like forever, 24/7 fan use, and kept the fridge on DC during travel. We even ran the air conditioner for 2-3 hours on 3 of the the hottest days. Even though our first few days were partly-to-mostly cloudy and our camping spot didn't get direct sun until noon, our batteries never dropped below 75%, and the solar managed to bring them back to 100% FULL twice on sunny days. Based on this first data point, I'd estimate that we could camp indefinitely with occasional full-sun days, and at least two weeks in cloudy conditions. 2. WATER: We are very water-wise while camping, but 10 days is a long time. We started with 30 gallons of fresh (forgot to turn the HW bypass before we left, so didn't have that extra 5) and 15 gallons of drinking water in jerry cans. Our son and friend brought us 10 gallons of fresh mid-trip. We also used our Lifesaver Pressurized Jerrycan to purify another 5-8 gallons of creek water and used 6 gallons of creek water to do 2 loads of laundry in our Scrubba bag. Our miserly ways included doing dishes just once a day at night in a basin in the kitchen sink, then using that water to put out our campfire rather than putting it in the gray tank; showering just twice during the week, and sponge bathing the other days. While we did have to use the boondock port twice to add about 15-20 gallons of water, we ended the trip with around 4-5 gallons in the fresh tank and the grey tank at about 60% full. We could have gone another 5-7 days easily, but we might have run out of food first! 🙂 The only thing I want to change for our next big boondock trip is the addition of a "touch" faucet at the kitchen sink. The stock faucet is nice, but very tricky to get the very low flow I prefer for rinsing dishes. The touch would allow you to set the flow once and forget it. We love the one we have at home, and my BIL is visiting for a month and loves projects, so.... If anyone has attempted a touch faucet in their Oliver and has advice/warnings, we'd love to hear them! 3. ALTITUDE: While we expected to have issues with our refrigerator on propane at 7500 feet (it's "rated" to 4500, with a recommendation to run on DC above that altitude), the fridge performed remarkably well on 100% propane. It did seem to need a bit of babying with regards to temp setting, though, having to turn it down at night and up during the heat of the day. (Anyone know why Norcold doesn't just install a thermostat instead of a 1-9 setting? Hate that "feature"!) While we might have been able to get away with running on DC full time if the sun was full every day, 10 days is probably just a bit too long to run it 24/7. Where we DID have issues with altitude was with the Suburban water heater. Apparently, this must be "derated" 4% for every 1000 feet above 4500. We'll be taking advantage of Google and Oliver this week to figure out what needs to be done, but the water heater was not happy at 7500 feet. It would sputter, stop, sputter, run, sputter, stop, run. And eventually we would get hot water. Clearly, we need to figure this out since 99% of our camping is above 4500 feet. 4. ENVIRONMENT: I remember long ago, before ordering an Oliver, that someone on the forums pointed out that the Oliver is very well-insulated and it likely wouldn't be necessary to run the A/C while we left the dogs inside to go riding. It's true! When we left for our rides in the morning, temps in the Oliver were around 65 degrees. We closed all windows tight, and when we returned 2-3 hours later, inside temps were at most 73 even when the outside temp was in the 80s. It helped that we parked in a spot where Olivia didn't get sun until around noon. Given how well the battery/solar package worked for us, if we're camped in a sunnier spot, I won't hesitate to close everything up and set the A/C to come on at 75 degrees, just in case. 5. COMPOSTING TOILET: In short, love it. We wouldn't have been able to dry camp 10 days with a conventional toilet. Given the altitude we were camping at, as well as the level of activity (2-4 hours of mountain biking every day), we consumed a LOT of water so we, well Mark, emptied the pee bucket every day and a half, but the solids container still has plenty of room. Solids did get a bit cloggy, probably due to too much moisture (I over-did it) and too much TP. Next time, I'll adjust the coir/water ratio and we'll put ALL TP into a waste bin. 6. CONNECTIVITY: I am pleased to report that our CradlePoint system with both AT&T and Verizon sim cards failed to produce any signal at all at our campsite. 🙂 Seriously. That made me very happy. Had we known that Starlink was going to go mobile this summer, we might have gone that route instead of CradlePoint, but....then we would have had internet in a place that we have always said is better enjoyed "unplugged". 7. FOOD: We don't believe in "roughing it" when we camp, and why should you when you own an Oliver? We ate like kings while out for 10 days. Our setup includes the InstantPot as well as a two-burner camp chef stove with the optional griddle and grill. While we did run out of fresh veggies after 7 days, we still did all right. A sampling of our favorites: Organic Chicken Flautas (Costco) with avocado and poached eggs (made in the microwave) Garlic Parmesan White Beans (themediterraneandish.com) Steak and Grain Bowl - NY strip, pearled barley, grilled onions and mushrooms, roasted brocolli, avocado InstantPot Oatmeal - steel cut oats, dried apples, mashed bananan, spices, maple syrup, toasted nuts InstantPot Honey Chipotle Tacos (cooking.NYTimes.com) Turkey melts: flour tortillas, cheddar cheese, apple, bacon, greens Seared Salmon with brown rice and sauteed spinach Beef Short Ribs with wine and tomatoes (pre-made at home, leftovers frozen for camping) And wine....plenty of wine. IMG_2135.MOV

The second annual Tri-State Oliver Owner’s Meet and Greet (formerly the Maine Oliver Owner’s Meet and Greet) was held from June 5 to June 12, 2022 at a campground bordering the Maine coast with owner’s from Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont in attendance. Matt Duncan, Oliver Travel Trailer Company Marketing Manager, was in attendance and brought his father as his tour guide as his father had been to Maine before and had friends living in Maine. The weather was generally nice with temperatures in the 70’s during the days and the high 50’s and low 60’s at night. Below are some pictures of the event. Meeting with Matt Dinner at Archer's on the Pier in Rockland, Maine Ocean View from the Campground Lobster Rolls at McLoom's Lobster Pound Ocean View at McLoom's Lobster Pound Picnic Area at McLoom's Lobster Pound Proud Owner's of a New Elite II - still had the temporary paper license plate on the trailer Notice the Gnome in the front trailer basket

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Yes, I have the Anderson WDH and when I dodged the turtle there was no reaction needed, ie. the truck and trailer acted as if nothing happened and all was under control through the whole maneuver. I give credit to both the trailer and tow vehicle being correctly connected and all within factory specs. trainman

We volunteer to be your friends! 😄

Oh! And in case you were wondering, we didn't drink all that wine by ourselves. We like to share with our friends! 🙂

We are big fans of our Breville BOV450XL Mini Smart Oven at home. However, the size of this toaster oven precludes use in our 2022 LEII, Hull 990. We have the HighPointe EC028KD7 Convection Microwave in our LEII, which we have used a number of times since pickup in February, 2022. The convection feature works well as an alternative to a conventional oven, however, it cannot match a toaster oven for toasting bagels, bread and English muffins. Thus, I began the hunt for a small/compact toaster oven which would be used in the LEII. I searched reviews of toaster ovens recommended for RVs, on Google as well as Amazon, but all were too large, claiming capacity for 4 pieces of toast or 9 inch pizzas. Finally, I searched Amazon for a 2 slice toaster oven and the few results included this Elite Gourmet ETO236 Personal 2 Slice Countertop Toaster Oven. I ordered one which arrived a few days ago. We tested it by making several slices of toast and it did a commendable job. We have not yet tested it in our LEII, but I am confident it will provide the desired toaster oven functions. I may need to provide some heat protection for the fibergranite counters in our trailer. Below are photos showing how the Elite Gourmet toaster oven fits in an LEII. The first photo shows the toaster oven on the counter in front of the pantry, with clearance to open the pantry door. Side view on pantry counter Plugged into electrical outlet with 3 foot extension cord We purchased a pair of these 3 foot extension cords rated for 1625 watts, to power our coffee maker and other appliances with very short cords. Stored in the curb side overhead compartment The Elite Gourmet ETO236 is rated at 650 watts power consumption. I expect we can easily power this toaster oven from our lithium batteries for the 4-5 minutes required to prepare toast. Most toaster ovens require 1200-1500 watts. For $35 is looks like a good solution. Regards, Don

Great job! And, it looks like the weather was just about perfect for everyone. Got any statistics - how many people, how many Olivers? Thanks for getting everyone together. Bill

Now wait a minute. I do a lot of road biking. I will have to be more careful when I know you are around my biking adventures. Ha Ha. I am sure ScubaRx was Just kidding.

All entrances to Yellowstone NP have been closed temporarily due to flooding. Hope none of y'all have plans/reservations soon, that would be so heartbreaking. go.nps.gov/220613

Thanks for posting! Ultimately Mother Nature will have her way.

There are still some very nice hikes/day trips either north or south via Route 191 out of Gardiner. In fact - if the travel south on 191 towards the town of West Yellowstone there is a very nice and fairly easy hike on Big Horn Pass Trail. I believe that the GPS is 44.928235, -111.049544 but they should check that before venturing out. Actually this hike is in Yellowstone National Park but you don't go through any gate or Ranger Station - it is right off 191 just north of Divide Lake. If they do this hike they should be absolutely certain to have bear spray for both the bears and the moose that hang out around there. And/or - they could turn north on 191 and head up to Big Sky Resort for a nice lunch at the ski resort or in the town of Big Sky. The drive is easy but very nice with the Gallatin River right along side the road. Bill

The towel bar is from Amazon. I bought two of the 18" model, $14.98/each. The one you saw below the pantry is attached with a disk of VHB adhesive, included with the bar. The VHB comes attached to two plastic disks which slide over the ends of the suction cups. In this location I could not get the suction cups to stay attached, perhaps due to flexing of the wall of the battery box, so I resorted to using the VHB.. I installed the second bar in the shower, under the mirror. This one has stayed in place quite well using only the suction cups. I have save the two plastic disks with the VHB for the day when the suction cups no longer work. See: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JWS988Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Don

I dont know about others, but in my trailer I refer to it as the late night practical joke switch as it makes it easy to turn off the hall and bath courtesy lights on someone on the throne.

Interesting in that I fly fish each summer for two months in the Rocky Mountain West. I have never had an issue with the water heater firing up and my camp sites are virtually always at or above 6,500 feet and have been as high as 11,500 feet. One "issue" that I did have early on was an accumulation of "stuff" in the burner area that was caused by paint, rust, dirt ("stuff") falling down the vent/exhaust pipe and "shorting" the burner sensor. I always carry a small can of compressed air for the purpose of blowing out this area. Bill

Looks like a fine gathering. Great report and photos. Thanks for posting!

I LOVE your towel bar. Can you share some info on it?

Yesterday evening I purchased this HF cordless buffer/polisher and honestly was very skeptical about how well it would work despite the very solid reviews. I thought for $30 why not give it a try? I had light to medium oxidation beginning on the street side front roof top corner and all along the top of the street side roof which I wanted to remove. I have to admit my wife and I were both really surprised and pleased at how well this 4.83# buffer removed ALL the oxidation with ease using Meguiars #67. Our Ollies roof top now looks as good if not better than the day we took delivery. Note- I never needed to replace the lithium battery during use. As mentioned I used Meguiars #67 with a terry cloth polishing pad on this little buffer which easily removed areas of oxidation. I then followed up with a buffing pad after applying Meguiars Premium Marine wax. 💯 % satisfied and happy with the final results. Letting the buffer do the work, I really prefer to work smart not hard.😎 The buffer is light weight enough that you can actually use it with one hand (perfect). The ergos of the handle felt very comfortable as I never got tired of using it while working up on the ladder. Another thing I liked is I was able to use the buffer under the solar panel over hang a plus. A 💯% keeper. Thanks to everyone’s buffer thoughts and suggestions, I have found what works really well for me at a very reasonable price. I would not hesitate to purchase this buffer again as it really brought the shine and beautiful luster back to our gelcoat and saves a ton of elbow grease. Happy Camping and Happy Polishing! 😊 A few photos - This area had the beginnings of oxidation…it’s gone now. The shadows are reflected shade from our trees. Very happy with the luster of the gelcoat completely restored to our Ollie. Just clears the solar panel. 👍🏻 Terry cloth pad -

Prior to delivery of our 2022 LEII in mid-February, I posed a question on the OTTO forum asking how many owners had installed odometers on their trailers, and if they had, what brand they had selected. I was surprised to learn almost no one had installed a hub odometer, with most relying on manual logs for mileage tracking I did not want to be bothered with keeping a manual log, knowing I would inevitably forget to enter tow vehicle mileage when towing our LEII. Undaunted, I began to search for a suitable hub odometer. I found few offerings for travel trailers, but did come across the TrailerLife Odometer line. On their website is a Ratio Selection Guide for determining which model odometer best matches the outside circumference of the tires on the trailer. I checked with Oliver Travel Trailers to confirm the tires to be installed on our LEII were 225/75R16 Cooper Discoverer HT3. On the Cooper Tire website I found these tires have a diameter of 29.21", a width of 8.5", mount on a 16" rim and make 710 revolutions per mile. The calculated rolling circumference= 29.21" x 3.1416= 91.73" I contacted Veeder-Root, the manufacturer of the TrailerLife odometer product line, where their tech support recommended using Model 714. They also recommended using one of their wheel center caps for a 4.25" wheel center hole for a 6 lug wheel. Otherwise, a hole must be drilled in the center of the standard Oliver hub cap to accept the mounting stud of the odometer, I placed an order for the Model 714 odometer, $84.99, and the wheel center cap, $15.99. The total was $104.56, including $3.58 for shipping. Front View Profile View The TrailerLife odometer and wheel center cap were delivered one month after I placed the order. A week or 10 days after placing the order, I called to inquire of the expected delivery date. Only then was I told the item was backordered and could be six weeks for delivery. Fortunately, I received the odometer and hubcap in time to take it with us for the LEII delivery date. On our LEII delivery date, the weather in Hohenwald was miserable, with pouring rain and cold, with temperatures in the low 20s at night. I asked Oliver to install the hub odometer, which they did during the delivery process for $20. I thought this was reasonable and was glad to have the odometer installed at the time of delivery. I asked to have the odometer installed on the street side rear wheel, since this is closest to the primary service connections and storage.. I don't believe it matters which wheel the odometer is installed on. The hub odometer now shows we have covered over 3,000 miles since delivery. I am sure the miles reported by the hub odometer are far more accurate than I would have manually recorded. Being a first time RV owner, I was (and still am) focused on learning the systems on our trailer and the procedures for using it safely. Manually recording the mileage traveled was not high on my list of priorities. I am keeping a log of our travel destinations, maintenance, modifications, etc. Don

HERE is a video showing some of the flooded areas. Bill

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article262460447.html John Davies Spokane WA

@John E Davies, great recommendation on the flat plug 2 foot extension cord for use with the toaster oven. I had forgotten we have several of these around the house for making connections behind furniture, or other cramped areas. Thanks

@John E Davies and @MountainMan, We decided to forego the ejection seat option due to weight and cost considerations. The circular black switch controls the nightlights/courtesy lights at floor level, now a standard feature, at least on 2022 LEIIs. We have not yet used these lights, as the glow from the various electronic devices onboard and ambient light through the entry door window provide sufficient illumination to make our way to the head at night. Don

Forgot, it isn’t uncommon for the gas jet to get a build up of crud around the hole, that thread shows how you can clean it. But if it is running too rich at 7500 feet that may not fix it. John Davies Spokane WA

Excellent point about the port itself, John. We hadn't considered that. Ours is a zamp port, and I just chatted with Zamp customer service. The port is rated to 345W, or approximately 20-25 Amps. We're good on that front, and given that all of the other wiring is 10 guage, we should be fine. I'll still put in a call to Oliver. Thanks! And I'll take a close look at your info on the water heater. It works just fine at home (5400 feet), so it likely is just a simple jet issue and not a supply issue.

Great post and really cool pics! Those lobster 🦞 rolls look yummy..mmmmmm! 😋 Thanks for sharing!

What is the unlabeled switch for? Ejection seat? No, that would be red. Thanks. That extension cord is kinda in the way there, you can replace it with a short right angle one, rotate the 120 VAC outlet 180 degrees and the cord will then go straight up so it is less at risk for being kicked. Something like this, I haven;'t used this particular brand. Tripplite make some too that are probably better built. John Davies Spokane WA

I think most of us have had to make some quick maneuvers, on interstates and smaller byways. I suspect Steve was making a joke about bicycles. He's always been a careful driver, to my knowledge.

We weighed our truck and trailer on the way back from the Rally last month. It came in just under 18,000 pounds. No matter which one of us is driving, Tali and I have agreed to rarely swerve to miss something. A woman pushing a baby carriage, Sasquatch or a VERY large tree would merit a reasonable evasive maneuver. A bicyclist in the middle of the road or an animal weighing less than 500 pounds will be evaluated on an individual basis. Most of us have upwards of $150K to $200K invested here. A $.50 cat goes into $200K one time with nothing left over. We did have mule deer to cross in front of us in Colorado the other day. Standing on the brakes and sitting on the horn enabled it to clear the guard rail on the outside of the road, we missed him by about two feet. Be careful out there…

Thanks John, Yes- 2 e-bikes... Guess they won't be making the trip...disappointing... Will certainly give you a "heads up" when we are near. Take care, Lee and Jane...

Jim, I agree with your comments on the rotary buffer and the potential for burns and swirl marks. I especially don’t like the heavier weight of the rotary buffers some averaging almost 6# ugh. Our oxidation was not terribly bad, but it was visible. Its all gone now and I hope to keep it that way with continued regular washing and waxing. Thank you for the link and your view points and as always your thoughts are appreciated. For now I am going to stick with what works and really works well. This little $30 HF buffer along with Meguiars #67 and Meguiars Marine wax really impressed us with the results. Thank you for you thougths! - Patriot

@Rivernerd It actually took about 1.5 hrs to buff out the entire street side roof area. A lot less time than “flying elbows” 😅. I could not be more pleased with how it turned out and with little to no downward pressure on the HF a buffer/polisher just letting the tool do the work. Hope this helps! This really works well - https://www.meguiars.com/marine/products/meguiars-marinerv-one-step-compound-m6732-32-oz-liquid

Looks like you found a decent option but for folks who may still be hunting, here's what I got based on the advice in a few articles on Practical Sailor. The DeWalt buffer was enticing as it works even faster but also runs more of a risk of burns and swirl marks if you're not really on your game - I would want a LOT of practice before risking using one of those. Even this Shurhold buffer requires attention to not overdoing any one spot. I used this to compound out some bad oxidation on the gelcoat of the roof of our camper van and it did a great job of that. I also used it to buff out the paste wax i used on that as well as on our Oliver - it also worked well for that, though for waxing I think one of those one hand cheap harbor freight auto buffers would work fine and in some ways be a little easier to handle. https://www.practical-sailor.com/boat-maintenance/shurhold-shines-among-electric-buffers I would not hesitate to use this to compound/polish the Oliver when that's needed. On these threads Mr Miyagi will aways weigh in regarding the goodness of hand-done "wax on/wax off", of course! 😉

@Cameron Just a follow up on this minor repair. I received the new frame and vent today from Oliver - wow fast shipping. Removed the old vent and frame, cleaned off caulk and applied 3m tape to the inside of the frame (pic) and reinstalled the frame (tip- do not tighten the S/S screws so tight that it tweaks or warps the frame, just snug them down do not over tighten. The old frame may have been tighten down to tight on the assembly line which resulted in the warp on the original vent door and frame just not matching up.) Now no more bow in the vent door. Reinstalled the insect screens and done. Thank you to Oliver parts department for the super fast shipping.

Steve, How did you tie into the camera power? Also, inside the "vanity"? Is this the overhead cabinet above the toilet or behind the towel bar below the sink? Thanks,

I mounted my signal booster inside the bathroom vanity attached to the front wall. I drew power from the switch that turns the camera on. Our new truck monitors the trailer tires as well as its own so I removed it all and sold it to a new owner

Yup, spreadsheets work for us, @Mike and Carol. I think my husband could run a total of every part and enhancement we've done since picking up #12, in February 2008, from our spreadsheets . Me?. I don't really want to know. Fun and friends and our adventures outweigh those $$$ , every time. Yolo.

Thanks for posting! That will definitely save fussing around, recording trip lengths and missing some! But you still have to keep a basic mileage log for the maintenance items. I quite like the new style spoked wheels, they would really show off a set of disk brakes with stainless calipers and rotors! Unmmmm good! John Davies Spokane WA

I put a Hub Odometer on our first Oliver and then moved it to our current Oliver. It quit about 5-6 years ago. The battery inside died and is not replaceable. Our new 2022 Silverado 3500 HD keeps up with the trailer mileage now anyway.

I don't recall the alligator clips. I did find an instruction sheet in the box which mentions the alligator clips. I would never have considered using them for reliable connection to a DC power supply. Either the polarity doesn't matter, or I got lucky. In any case, the signal booster works fine.

Although both wires attached to the signal booster are black, I note that they come with red and black alligator clips. I presume you connected the wire that came with a black clip to the ground bus, and the wire that came with a red clip to the DC distribution panel?

Back in the day, those panels were bigger, metal, and they didn't warp. But, they were really ugly, and rusted. Today, they're plastic, don't rust, but can warp. I hope Oliver will file a claim with norcold/dometic. My 14+ year old plastic vents have not warped. They're smaller, and I suspect a more thermally stable plastic.

@Fargoman, I considered installing a few short narrow Velcro strips as well to remove the bow in the panel, and may still have to even after installing the new vent frame and panel. I looked at a few Ollies at the Rally and did not see the bowing panel issue. Hopefully a new panel will correct the fit and finished look. Good mod hack repair/suggestion if any one is out of warranty and does not want to purchase another frame and panel I say Velcro On! 😊 -Patriot

Pee alone still stinks, if left to sit for a period of time. It is what it is. If you do this mod, I'd add some water every use, maybe some sugar. . More water, before dumping.

For those less industrious, "GO-STIK" products makes a single (4') aluminum towel bar that attaches with suction cups. Major difference is that the GO-STIK only has a single bar vice triple. The GO-STIK product is obviously more expensive. I have the GO-STIK myself and it suits my needs but I do like the OPs design. Another note: Make sure you avoid putting the suction cups on any graphics.

Poorly, but the 2023 models have all Victron equipment. This is a game changer.

Suction Cups... We've forgotten it on a few times and it did not fall off in transit. Think this is the one. https://www.amazon.com/BOPai-Suction-Removeable-Adhesive-Premium/dp/B01EN8UWJS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1MKUDWUMQ2IW5&keywords=suction%2Bcup%2Btowel%2Bbar&qid=1654175282&s=home-garden&sprefix=suction%2Bcup%2Btowel%2Bbar%2Cgarden%2C72&sr=1-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFLVlNRSEpPUFYyRkomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAyOTEyMjBFRUVUMUhNNEowVE0mZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDQzMTQ1NTNRTlc4Qk9NWVlFOEYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

Borrowed this ingenious concept from @mossemi

2021 Ram eHemi & E2 - We just completed a three week 4500 mile trip from Arizona to Michigan and back... Had wind everyday! We got as high as 16.5 one day with tailwinds and as low 11.5 with headwinds - averaged 12.6 overall running mostly 65 mph (some 70 toward the end of the trip as I could tell the barn door was open.) FYI, we were loaded - took waaaay too much stuff with us. My bad habit! Charlie.

LRN, We pull our LE2 with a '21 F150 Hybrid and are happy with the rig. We returned yesterday evening from a 6 week tour from here in Tx out to the West coast. 6000+ miles, averaged 13.0 MPG overall, start to finish, including towing miles plus the unhooked sight seeing. We get 25-26 around town, 24-25 at highway speeds and 11.5-12 pulling the Ollie. While we loved the ride and handling of the F150 we did spend 3 unscheduled days in Newport Oregon at the excellent Ford dealer there diagnosing a misfiring problem which turned out to be a spark plug/coil failure. Who'da thunk a spark plug and a coil have to be overnighted to a Ford dealer. It's interesting times we live in. BTW, Newport was an excellent tourist town to be stuck in. Also we had 3 instances of what I decided was erroneous error messages where we would see "Hot engine coolant" but after checking the fluids, smell checking under the hood etc we would restart and not get the message for a long time as in 1000+ miles. None of these events happened during our 108F crossing of the Mojave Desert but temps in the 60's. Now that we are back home I'll take it back to my local dealer and get them to check it over. Also we used the generator function on the truck to power the truck a couple of times. Big plus there. This was our first extended trip with the Ollie; it is now a full fledged member of the family.