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I really don't think you're in the minority. I don't like big crowds either, but I'll admit I do love to be in a big Oliver crowd. All of the Oliver folks that I see as friends are what I consider like-minded. Are you coming to the rally in Guntersville? I'm not a rally type of guy, but this gathering is not like any of the others I've ever attended. No pot luck suppers that likely will leave you with the squirts. No Karaoke night, although I have been known to do John Belushi's rendition of Joe Cocker's cover of the Beatles' With A Little Help From My Friends. Don't Ask. Just a bunch of Oliver-Centric folks getting together to talk, have fun and help each other.

I'm probably the minority here, but I don't really like big crowds. I camp because I love nature and quiet evenings where the crickets converse with each other in harmonious symphony, adding to the trumpeting overtures of coyotes and the occasional fluting of a tree frog or bass tympany of bull frogs. The wind blowing through the trees, snow drifting lazily along a riverbank, and birds singing the praises of our Creator are the only friends that I've ever known. When I join a forum or schedule a meeting with like-minded people at a campground, it actually goes against my grain and puts me out of my comfort zone, but that is a good thing I suppose. Tina, my wife, always says that I need to come out of my box to smell the fresh air every now and then.

I most certainly will. Waiting to see and touch them first and confirm the measurements and specs are right (should be no issue). Once I have confirmed this I will share the info and contact details.

And the Stick Built Owners that like to boondock off hard surface roads become Ollie Owners as a result of their stick builts falling apart. Love my OE2! GJ

I had planned to go to the Oliver rally, but work sidetracked me. If I can break free, I might actually show up. When I say "I", I mean my wife Tina, my dog and the Oliver.

If you are looking to buy a new Oliver Travel Trailer here are some things to consider. With the implementation of the new dealer network you now have several new options available to you that previously did not exist when you could only go to Hohenwald to buy a trailer. There are two ways to approach the first step. If you live a long way from Hohenwald and don’t want to have to drive that far to see the trailers you should check the Link on the Oliver page that will show you where all the current dealers that will be selling Oliver’s are located. There are currently 18 different locations spread across the United States. There are future plans to add new dealers here and in Canada. With the information on the locations of the dealers, if one is close to you and you want to do business with them that is perfectly fine. If one is no closer to you than Hohenwald you may choose to contact the sales team there. When contacting Hohenwald a member of the sales team will take your personal information and work with you to get you the exact trailer you want in the shortest time possible. They can take an order from you and get you into a queue to have the trailer of your dreams built for you. The current wait time after ordering is around four months. If you live in a state that does not have any dealers, they will see if there is a trailer already built and available at one of their dealers. If so, you could have your new trailer in a matter of days rather than months. Even if there is not one that is just like you desire, if a dealer has a trailer on order that is still early in its build, Oliver will work with that dealer to attempt to have the build altered to be what you want. Doing it this way will still get you a trailer much quicker than starting your build from scratch. If you live in a state that has dealers, Oliver’s agreement with those dealers is that you will be referred to them. Another option that was not previously available to you is that if you already own an RV of some sort and want to trade it in, many of the dealers might be able to do that whereas in Hohenwald, that was not and will not ever be an option. You can also buy a trailer through a dealer, do all the paperwork there and still pick it up in Hohenwald if you want to. And, as always, you are free to buy a trailer and take delivery in Hohenwald if you so choose. Both of these options are a good choice if you want to do a plant tour prior to pickup. At some relatively near future point (certainly this year) their plan is to have all sales conducted through the dealer network. The rumor that they will stop working on trailers older than two years or out of warranty is patently false. Service will continue to be done in Hohenwald. The rumor was started by a fired service employee. He and his wife propagated this rumor as well as other false information about the Oliver TT after he was terminated. It was posted both here and on the various FB pages. He has been terminated there as well and the false statements have been removed. As always, the Oliver sales staff will still be available to assist you and the dealers with any questions and issues. If none of this works for you, my suggestion is to take the list of dealers from the website and call each of them and tell them what you are looking for to see if they have one is stock that would suit your needs.

If you don’t mind, please share the information on where you purchased your new USA made springs. Last year I purchased two replacement springs from Dexter along with new U bolts and nuts, wrapped the springs and carry them in the truck just in case.

For those who don't know, it is just south of Tow. Oh, and NW of Austin, wherever that is.

E19 - ScubaRx - Steve, Tali, and Rocky - Mississippi - The Outlaw Oliver Hull #050

Oh, and me, of course.

The first two were held in a muddy campground just outside of Hohenwald. All the rest have been in Guntersville.

This is not usually a problem, except for the elderly folks.

Don't be afraid to speak your mind. 🙂 I'm not a big FB guy. In fact, I'm not really a forum guy. I do my best though. A Texas get together sounds good, as long as it doesn't get too crowded.

Jaew and Kevin Henry - Site G39. Really looking forward to seeing our wonderful OTT friends!

UPDATE: I was indeed the grounding plug! Got a new one and it charges like a champ now!! So glad it was a simple fix!! Thank ya'll again for all your help!

I'll step in here and say that as far as I know, there has never been a member on this forum that has volunteered to take on the responsibility of listing all the fiberglass rallys that are ongoing all the time across the nation. There are sites and people that do it, with FB being the most popular platform. The Oliver Rolling Rally FB page requires that you be an Oliver owner to sign in. Since the folks at Oliver don't read or participate here, there is never much mention of even the Annual Oliver Rally. If someone here wants another project to consume their life start a thread and list the dates and places for Rallys. With the exception of the Oliver Rally, we rarely attend any of the others.

The 5 month booking window for Texas State Parks is 5/21/24. There shouldn't be a problem on getting a site for 10/21-24. While there are many people on the Forum that don't do Facebook, the Oliver Trailer Owners and Oliver Rolling Rally Facebook sites have a big following. There have been numerous rallies and meet-ups set-up. I choose to use both Oliver Facebook and the Forum. The Oliver Facebook site has been around for years and Rolling Rally from around 2 years. The members on Facebook asked for a vehicle to set-up rally's and meet-ups. I can't speak for the Forum. Each group has the opportunity do what Oliver Owners have done on the Facebook site

There is a Texas Rally at Inks Lake on 10/21/24-10/24/24. The 15 alloted early booking sites went in 24 hours and the remainder of people will have to book at the Texas 5 month booking window starting on May 21, 2024. All of the information is on Facebook Oliver Rolling Rally. 25 owners are expected. There are many who don't use Facebook, but on Oliver Trailer Owners and Oliver Rolling Rally there are many small rally's and get togethers organised on both sites.

On the way home from the SW this year, I had the pleasure of experiencing a broken LR leaf spring while underway. It broke in the usual place (see pic). Fortunately the broken spring was noticed quickly and I found a safe place to overnight and perform the repair the next day. Unfortunately, I was not carrying a spare spring. After finding a pair of springs locally and installing them I made it home the next day. What I found when inspecting my broken spring was what appeared to be a defect in the steel (see pic). In no way do I blame Oliver for this failure as the trailer spring market is monopolized by Springs made of Chinese steel and Oliver, like all other manufacturers source from the same pool of components. In fact, after opening a service ticket, Mike was extremely helpful in getting me the specs and info I needed. I decided that once I got the trailer home I would replace all four springs with the best springs I could find. Preferably from a US company, made in the US and with US made 5160 spring steel. What I did not appreciate was that there did not appear to be any trailer parts sources which met this criteria. This was not proving to be a simple task. Everything I could find in the RV aftermarket was sourced from China. No exceptions. The only good news I found was that Chinese springs are cheap ($35-55ea). I remembered a Spring Company from my offroading days and gave them a call. They had a set of four springs which fit the measurements provided by Oliver Service and were made in the US with US 5160 spring steel. Cost is $150/ea spring but since I had already spent a fair amount of $ upgrading to stainless lugnuts and US made Timken bearings this did not prevent me from placing the order for a set of four springs and new ubolts. New springs should be here later this week. I will update with pics once I get the springs and also once I install and of course again after towing a few thousand miles.

I am organizing a small rally in Texas October 21-24 at Inks Lake State Park. This rally is for Oliver Owners https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/media/park_maps/pwd_mp_p4507_015k.pdf Beginning May 21 at 8 am CST you will be able to reserve a site for your yourself. I would appreciate you letting me know your hull number and site number so I may include it on a list of participating owners. You may call the Texas Parks & Wildlife office at 512-388-8900 to reserve your site or use reserveamerica.com. Sites 41-57 are not available. This rally is in the Hill Country and not to far from Fredericksburg, Johnson City, etc. lots of wineries in the area as well.

Thank you for the information. You are at least the fourth Oliver owner to have broken springs. Some trailers are newer and some have been older so certain ages of trailers don’t (at least so far) seem to be more or less prone to failure. Also as you stated, this is not an Oliver issue in any way. I believe that all trailers of any make are prone to spring failures.

Interesting too that it appears as though the one that broke was on the street side. Certainly it does appear that the steel simply doesn't look right. Bill

The 2024 Texas Oliver Rally, if you do a search on Oliver Forum, should show up. The rally is for Oliver Owners only which is the reason it was posted in FB in the Oliver Rolling Rally group. This Oliver Forum and the FB Oliver Trailer Owners group have members that are not Oliver Owners. That being said anyone that is an Oliver Trailer owner is invited to attend. This rally is meant for folks to enjoy a vacation, exploring on their own or with a group. We all can get together in the evenings socializing around a campfire, playing dominoes, corn whole, or whatever. Just want to make it clear the 2024 Texas Oliver Rally is not the same as the 2024 Oliver Rally that us held in May.

Updated, and thanks for the contributions. That's 56 Olivers located so far.

Since they blink off when the furnace cuts in, I suspect the latter. What type of batteries do you have and what's their voltage when the furnace is running?

Makes me think back to my childhood: If I had seen a sign that said "The Thing", no one could have kept me away. I'm always looking for weird cool places like that.

I was joking in my previous post; however, I have used this method in the past. Now I just use my nose. I have a marvelous amount of knowhow that includes electrical and plumbing which covers gas lines. I have never paid anyone to do my own work. While it is true that you can use lighters to find leaks in gas lines, I would suggest that only the most qualified and trained plumbers do this. Everyone else here should either use a gas sniffer, or better yet, hire a qualified professional. You don't get second chances with explosive stuff.

In year's past, the $100 Oliver fee has included things like - the opening reception evening meal in the Lodge, a t-shirt, hat, other Oliver "Merch" like mugs, license plate frames, tote bags, etc. and a State Park gift card (usually worth $25 or so). There is also included a portion of the "rental" for the meeting spaces to include the main ballroom in the Lodge where the presentations are held. But, IMO the best value is all of the free information and/or help that one can get from the other attendees. If ya got a "problem" - certainly there is someone in attendance that has the answer, tools, or materials to get it fixed. Can't wait to see everyone. Bill p.s. bikes, water craft, good walking shoes, note book, camera are all good things to remember to bring with you. Also, when attending functions at the Lodge don't forget to bring along a sweater, sweat shirt or light jacket - there are times that the air conditioning works VERY well.

I wonder if they would still feel the same if they pulled a larger stick built trailer several thousand miles, then had the chance to tow an Oliver an equal distance. Also, I was hesitant about a wet bath until I saw how easy it was to keep clean. John

Here are the links for the 3M Thinsulate 600L and 3M 90 Spray adhesive, you might even find it cheaper, just google it. You can buy the 1/2" pipe insulation in 3' or 6' lengths from Home Depot

That's good to know, Steve - thanks for posting!

See photo below, showing both the bottom and top vents I installed. As you can see, they are cut into the wall above and below the closet door, allowing air from the main cabin to flow into and then out of the closet. I am advised that Oliver is now installing such vents in new trailers being manufactured.

It is set up on Rolling Rally for Oliver Owners. Oliver owners are invited. Not sure why you think it has to be posted here. To be honest I'm getting a little pissed the direction you have taken this. I extended an invite based on your comment of having a Texas get together. Questioning me as to why it was on Facebook and not here.

Trust me, they do. Think of it this way: the furnace blower creates positive air pressure in the trailer's main cabin. If you left the closet door open all the time, this positive air pressure would push warmed air into the closet. The two vents work in a similar way: the positive air pressure pushes the cold air near the floor level of the main cabin through the lower vent (i.e., a hole with louvers) into the closet. As the warmed air rises, it exits the top vent (hole), creating a convection current in the closet.

It reads to be a private meet for members of "Oliver Rolling Rally." Donna Gerould would have to post it here if she wants other Oliver owners involved.

John, thanks for sharing the rally information. There are valid reasons people don’t want to use FB and I’ll just leave it at that. I just wouldn’t want to see a division between the FB owners and the Forum owners. Mike

Here is the info on the Texas Rally for 10/21-24. Please note you will have to follow normal booking through Texas Parks 5 month booking window. The enclosed was for the early booking, so doesn't apply for those booking 5/21/24.

Why Facebook when this great forum is OTT sponsored and has years of history? I never had a FB account, Chris had one early and closed it when they became outwardly political. Sorry, we're not looking there. Love the lakes region of central Texas. We had a restaurant on RR 620 by Lake Travis and for years we attended juniors' tennis tournaments at the Horseshoe Bay Resort! Marble Falls is a great little town too. Mike understands many of us will not get campsites there. Are there other nearby park locations?

Where's Ollie? Well, the short story is D and her sister are enrolled for a weaving class in Taos today through Sunday. So we came up yesterday afternoon and are staying at Monte Bello park just north of Taos near the base of Wheeler Peak (13,161") NM's highest: Since the 2 "Knuckleheads" and I will be backcountry skiing to Williams Lake at some point, we decided to bring an extra POV for the 2-hour trip here from home which will give the girls flexibility in their to/from commute. We're the only party in the park - imbibing on some random adult beverages at sunset (above) and a Husky "Donut" (below): Yet the same room but different view - Wheeler Pk at sunrise: Morning coffee with 3 humans and 2 canines - cozy, but it doesn't feel crowded: 26F last night the furnace kept OTT occupants at a cozy 66F - screenshot of the Easy Touch App: Cheers, All - from Taos, NM!

We'll definitely take you up on that one, John - wish we could've made it work as part of our "Q" trip in JAN! But a TX OTT mini-rally sounds awesome - we're in the DFW area regularly from NM while visiting our grandson there... Maybe after the Annual OTT Rally?

I know you are joking. Disclaimer: Just to educate the absolute newbies, soap/soapy water is better. None of us ever use flame to find gas leaks. Including @Jason Foster above, I'm sure. That was a joke, for sure. A propane sniffer is even better.

I use the cheap, tried and true method of lift and shake.

Just an FYI on the subject of replacing a converter/charger in a Progressive Dynamic's Power Control panel or upgrading an existing inverter: the wiring and components of any electrical system, whether AC of DC, has been engineered to the specification’s of the system components. If you choose to upgrade any single component, such as the PD converter/charger from 45 amp to 60 amp, you may overload the other components of the system. Please be careful and consider the bad things that can result from our desire to gain capacity from our upgrades and replacements! Mossey

For many of us, that's plenty cold. Our much older 2008 is good into nighttime temps of high teens, if daytime is warmer. I'm with you. I'll leave intended winter camping to others. If and when we ever get lithium, I'll make sure I have heating for the batteries. I'm good with good blankets.

Yes, @Hokieman and @mountainoliver, that's what I meant, but didn't make clear. With a minimal ip21 rating, I'd want to seal that door to the outside, for both dust and moisture, very carefully, and if I needed venting for temp, I'd want it to be to the cleaner interior of the trailer. Thank you both for helping me out. I appreciate it. You both read my mind.

Of course you can, Bill! HA! 😆

You should have a breaker for the inverter under the street side bed on the wheel well, looks like this. Some suggestions... 1) Did you check if the ground bonding plug is seated properly in your generator? 2) Are you running your 3500W generator on gas or propane. Because it generates only approx. 2800 continuous running watts on propane, which at 120V is approx. 23A, which should still be enough power to run your trailer without changing the Xantrex settings. Try changing the Xantrex AC input settings from the factory 25A to 20A, that would be #28 setting in the Xantrex "FXC Control" app. This setting is set to 25A at the facory because the breaker size for the inverter is 25A and the main power supply is 30A which is greater than the breaker size. When you connect to a generator or house receptical that supplies a lower amps, you need to adjust setting #28 down to match the current incoming power supply. Your smaller generator could have messed it up. 3) Like @topgun2 suggested, take a rubber mallet and tap the transfer switch box 4) If you trust your generator turn off the EMS and see if it works.

Thanks for doing this.

Once I get back from Florida in early February, I will make a post to compile sites, names, forum user names, hull number, etc. like I did last year. As a new attendee, I did it for myself to put faces to names. But when arriving, I found that many folks had printed out my list to use for themselves. During last year's rally, I was asked if I'd be doing it again.

Well, certainly it is almost not possible to fill the Oliver water tank to 100% full if you are not reasonably level. But, my Ollie isn't perfectly level (nor do I spend the time to make it so) when I have it in my driveway preparing for travel. Interestingly, while in my driveway my Ollie is slightly high at the front and slightly tilted to the street side. Being slightly high in the front means that the overflow tube in higher than it would be if things were level and with the tilt being low on the street side it also makes the over flow tube higher than it would be at level. All this results in a fresh water tank that basically gets "overfilled". No problem for me except for that first time I pulled out of the driveway and my wife started yell that I had a leak - due to the "excess" water now coming out of the overflow tube. Having said all this - I normally don't fill my fresh water tank with any more water than necessary. If my plan is to simply be driving for the day and I know that I'll be stopping at a campground that night, I just might not fill that tank at all - why tow around the weight of the water. Note here that I always have a couple of milk jugs with water in them stored by the toilet in order to have water to flush my standard toilet when necessary. Don't forget - one of the main benefits of the tank design in the Oliver is that the weights of the liquids in these tanks is distributed low down and relatively evenly from side to side. This is a major contributing factor in the towing stability of Olivers. Bill p.s. both the fridge and the fresh water do not require that the Oliver be perfectly level in order to fill and/or use them. Specific degrees of "off level" can probably be found in any particular manufacturers owner's manual. I simply use my senses in order to determine what is OK for level - if I can sleep relatively comfortably and if my adult beverage doesn't roll off the dinette then I'm good to go.