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With global warming we are now up to 16 days of summer, with only one snow day in between...

I don’t pay too much attention to tow vehicle topics on the forum, but I am watching the Tampa Bay Rays in the World Series and just saw the Hummer Electric Truck commercial. I didn’t remember seeing any discussion about it here previously, so I searched the forum and didn’t see any topics about it here. This surprised me because you guys are normally pretty talkative about trucks and I think any truck with 1000 HP might get at least a whisper, even if it is electric. Mossey

I'm impressed that Townesw has chosen to outfit their 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax with a custom Turboencabulator modification. I've been contemplating doing the same to our 2017 model.

Careful about retirement.. When retired you don't get days off and vacations. If you ski there are no lines mid week, they start the lift as you ski up. Mid week you can go into a store, get what you want and get out. If you go to the beach mid week you can watch the beach and surf, instead of where you step. Lots of times, mid week, you can get your choice of sites at campgrounds. Doesn't take long to plan on staying home on Saturdays and enjoy family...

This discussion sure has become thought provoking...I’ve got a whole new line of gear to research ... retirement clocks... guess I better get on, because not only will we be leaving to pick up our new camper one month from tomorrow.... we will be, for all intents and purposes, retired🙂

The first few days and even months of my retirement were filled with all kinds of "stuff". Getting projects done that were long over due, getting rid of old work things, catching up, getting organized, etc.. Then one day around six months into retirement I woke up one morning and while laying there in bed I realized that today I could do whatever I wanted. If I wanted to read all day, fish all day, lay right here all day - I could do it. THAT was when I finally realized what retirement is to me - freedom. And, that is when I really started to fully enjoy myself in this new phase of life. Yes, I'm busier than ever with more projects than ever, but, it is that freedom of choice that makes all of that fun and not really seem like work (at least most of the time). Bill

Surrounded here at home in the foothills by an incredible a North Carolina fall day, I decided to install a bit of left over 8 mil paint protection where the spare tire can potentially rub and leave marks on the Oliver during travel. I had a little 8 mil left over from a previous install and decided to use it. After a good through cleaning and waxing of the area, I installed the 8 mil XPEL covering the entire location where the tire touch’s the Ollie finish. This will help the finish looking decent for a long time. (A little caution flag - factory sticker on the rim states clean with hot soap water only.) Hope this helps anyone considering this mod. -Patriot

Ray's signature indicates he has a 2020 LE2. Oliver university only has Xantrex manuals for the the XC2000 and XC3000 and the remote listed for the 2020 model LE2. The Progressive Dynamics PD9100/PD9200 PD5000 Series AC/DC distribution panel does not have a dedicated charger breaker as my 2017 PD4000 Series does. And the main breaker is 30 amp. The manual says the XC 2000 requires a 30 amp breaker and the XC3000 requires a 50 amp breaker. So my guess is that the the Xantrex equipment installed in Ray's LE2 is a XC2000 and the fact that it doesn’t have a dedicated breaker for the charger in the PD panel leads me to believe that the Xantrex XC2000 is also wired for charging the batteries. This would support the Jason's statement that the Xantrex should always be on. And I would add that it should always be on if you are charging the batteries or using a AC load such as the dehumidifier Ray mentioned. There is also a LBCO or low battery cut off setting from the Xantrex factory at 10.5v. Oliver may or may not have changed that setting. In conclusion, I believe the fluctuations in incoming AC power forced the inverter to supplement the incoming AC with battery power and ran the batteries down to the 10.5v LBCO setting which then shut of the inverter, creating the condition Ray first reported. I will also add my standard disclaimer: I have not read the entire XC2000 manual or looked at a 2020 LE2 wiring diagram, so I may be totally wrong, in which case I will say "Mea culpa”. Mossey

Does Mane still get 2 weeks of summer? 🤣🤣 just kidding!

Here’s another data point: 2012 Porsche Cayenne V6 gas, 300 hp and the same number for torque, towing capacity 7700 lbs. LE II loaded to approximately 5500 lbs; trailer tire pressure ~60 psi. I’ve towed my 2017 LEII approximately 28,000 miles which included three trips to Oregon from Boston. I generally cruise near 70 mph. Ave 13 mpg.

Hmmmmm...r. I don’t know, that looks an awful lot like a Subaru Brat on steroids to me. 😂

We've never used an Anderson on our tow vehicles. 2004 Volvo xc90, 2008 ram 1500, 2005 1500 Silverado. The Elite is lighter and smaller than the II. More choices in tow vehicles . I suspect your big Escalade (same platform as Hummer?) would be fine. But, if you want a truck, find a 1500 that feels good when you drive it. If you're going to be changing up anyway, I'd recommend 4x4. You definitely do not need a 3/4 ton truck to comfortably tow an Elite I. There are many suvs that would also work.

My plan is to replace my tires (BF Goodrich) next spring/summer when they go over 5 years. I was also thinking AT’s.

And of those 16 days of summer, 4 or 5 of them are hot and muggy... at which point we all start griping about the weather and looking forward to fall ...

If your model is an inverter/charger, that's exactly what it is designed to do. Charge when ac is available, switch to battery/inverter when ac fails. Not ideal if you don't know what's happening, and don't have a ton of battety available. Slick if you do.

Xantrex makes both inverters, and inverter/chargers with builtin transfer switches.

Yes. Since it wasn't annotated in the drawing, I forgot about the nightstand. (We don't have nightstands.) Thanks for that reminder! 🤦‍♀️

"Ace is the Place" We love our Ace Hardware. If they don't have it, they can probably get it. We try to shop local 😃

I am sure you will...

Do you have the new 3000 watt Xantrex, and if so, is it a hybrid inverter/charger? I know they make one, but I didn't think Oliver was using it. My hybrid inverter has four settings - on, off, charger only and inverter only. If it's set to charger only or off, then it doesn't supply power to the outlets even when I'm plugged in.

Our local Ace hardware does rescreening, too.

Interesting that the inverter would have to be on for the outlets to work. Our Leisure Travel Van had a 1000w inverter. The inverter had an on/off switch which we kept turned off, for the most part, and the outlets worked fine. Is the Oliver inverter automatic? Does it come on when the electrical system detects no 110 power? Our Oliver will be equipped with the lithium pro package. I am going to ask a lot of electrical questions during our walk-through.

I find this fascinating, not doubting you at all. However, the listed curb weight of the Porsche is about 4400 lbs. and a standard EII is about 5500 lbs. dry, , I am curious, does the tail wag the dog at all. In 28000 miles I would guess your more than happy. Just interesting - a cool sports vehicle pulling a cool RV!!!!

As the Master Oliver remodeler (I say that in reverence) Mr. Overland has commented - if you have shore power - and the Power manager says you do, and you get power off the inverter - it is most probably the transfer -or a connection in that circuit. Not having a wiring diagram for your unit I'm just surmising. Good hunting - with a good voltage tester it shouldn't take to much to find the issue.

I find it immensely entertaining to watch as folks eventually work their way to the correct answer..... But honestly, I could be fine with a Ford, Ram, or GMC. - Arguing about the very small differences - well let em rip.

My guess at this point is that it's either a bad transfer switch or a wire has come loose.

Ray - as I recall, on your model you have a second panel located on the "Attic" - you might want to check that also. Bill edit - the attic is the large storage locker at the top center of the rear of the Oliver.

Ray, Have you reset the 20 amp circuit breaker for the outlets in the power center under the dinette?

I think your Ford has more power than the Cummings motor. Could also be gearing differences. The Rams (we rented from Barco in Utah) were Laramies and not really set up as work trucks though that is the way we used them. The heavy load I mentioned, was a large dual filter pod used in the oil field. The weight was not listed on the trailer because I suspect it was overweight. I estimate 12-14K but it could have been well over 15K...which was the max rating of the truck. All I know is it took a long time to get to speed and a long time to brake...even with the brake controller.

Thank you for all the suggestions. Right now I will work on testing the things that have been suggested so far. The power management monitor is reading E0, 123V, 0A 60H. Also the microwave does not have power. I will work on getting a new dogbone connector and sperry tester as suggested by John. I also verified everything again that I mentioned in my earlier postings since these things seem most like to occur late at night :-). Ollie plugged in and the inverter powered off on the inverter box itself (the power button on the inverter display doesn't seem to do anything). There is no power to the outlets. As soon as I turn the inverter on they power up, but I am trying to keep it off so as not to run the batteries down anymore. Another hour or to till the sun comes up!

I agree that you may have a supply problem, do you have a GFCI tester? You NEED to have one of these in your galley drawer, for routine checks at campgrounds before plugging in to shore power... Any brand similar to this, with the GFCI button on it, will be fine. The local hardware store will have one. Sperry tester Check all your Ollie outlets with it also, including the one above the microwave. Test the functioning of your GFCI outlet, mine is located below the dinette. Your dog bone adapter may be faulty, you need to check everything. Many cheap ones are poorly made. Buy a 15A male to 30 A female one, plugged directly into your side connection, and try plugging a regular 15A extension cord into the trailer - if that fixes the problem your other adapter is no good. You don’t need to use your big cable over the winter, a heavy gauge 15A (10 AWG) cord is fine. If your home outlet and your cords and adapters check OK, then you need to contact Oliver. Not before. Good luck. John Davies Spokane WA

If you have a microwave and it is not powered from shore power with the inverter off you probably have a shore power quality problem and the protective devices won't let it power up the trailer. I suggest checking your fault codes on the monitor. I had essentially the same problem with a circuit coming from my house. The receptacle had been wired wrong and had reverse polarity. I swapped the wires around on the receptacle and it then worked fine. You can also try the over ride function for a test of that, if it powers up in over ride the reverse polarity is a likely cause. If so, you should have it fixed, potentially dangerous if you don't.

Definitely call Oliver if no one else posts with a solution. Let us know what they say and what the problem turns out to be.

Thank you for the fast response. The breaker and the GFCI from the house are good and there is power to the trailer. I guess I will call Oliver tomorrow.

If there’s no power to the outlets when plugged in, inverter off, then something is wrong for sure. Possibly a bad transfer switch but hopefully there’s a simpler solution. I guess that I’d check the breaker on the house circuit first just to make sure that you didn’t trip it with the dehumidifier. That, or if the outlet you’re using is a GFCI then check that. Either way, I’d verify that you actually have power as a first step in figuring it out. Also, if you have a surge protector, make sure that it’s not showing an error (should cycle through E 0 on the display). It’s possible that it detected a wiring fault - no ground or maybe reversed hot and neutral.

An electric Brat? Count me in! Mossey

Omg. That's so funny. The BRAT. But, the rear seats in the Hummer face forward. and, they're inside the cab, instead of the truck bed. 🤣🤣🤣

My bad, I read over the part where you said Elite 1. I agree with the others, you’re definitely ok without the Andersen.

Yes, it is neat and it might make hooking up an Ollie easier and cause some jaw dropping at the same time. Mossey

Btw, go Rays. Tiny budget, mighty grit.

But that might be a bargain 3 Christmas's from now.😮 Mossey

I hate retirement Saturday’s, there is too much traffic! Glad there is only one, Mossey

Sherry, on your Elite I how high does the ball need to be to keep the trailer level? This is an important measurement for Sheri to know when buying a ball and mount. We have two Sherry/Sheri’s here, trying not to get confused! Mike

Agree. If you are going to get a truck and plan on living in your Ollie I would favor a 4X4 for those situations that one is needed. The reason I prefer a truck over an SUV is because I would rather have my camping gear (grill, chairs, clam, rug, etc) in the bed of the truck rather than inside with me in an SUV. Mike

You might notice the folks towing with 1/2 ton don’t have fiberglass caps.

Wait a minute! I thought we all agreed that a Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax was the perfect tow vehicle? Are some of you all “crawfishin’ “ now? Read my post, top of page 2 in this thread:

Check the third/top tail light. If you can't see a problem with the caulk, or feel water in the attic cabinet, you can check the light for leaks by running duct tape around the edges, and either wait for rain, or spray it with a hose. This area is probably the most common area I've heard of for leaks, over the years. The water can run down the cabinet, and around the window frame, making you think the window is leaking.

Driving south along the Mississippi River IS downhill. At least, the last I heard, even if it is only 600 feet change from Iowa to the Gulf... 🙂 Just like the Great Plains, ignoring wind effects, you get a little better mileage headed east than west .John Davies Spokane WA

We keep the heat register below the curbside bed closed all the time, to try and force heat forward. When camping with electric hookups, we use the Vornado heater that @Mike and Carol recommended here. Overnight we plug it into the outlet at the side of the nightstand. In the morning, we plug it into the outlet next to the bathroom door, and point it into the bath area for half an hour or so. Works well to heat up the bath. When camping without electricity, we use the furnace overnight. Then in the morning, we use the Vornado to heat up the bath for half an hour. Here are my calculations: I have 4 AGM batteries which have 400 amp-hours. Of that, 1/2 is useable = 200 amp-hours. This heater runs at 750 Watts, so 750 Watts / 120 Volts = 6.25 Amps 6.25 Amps x 11 (fudge factor) = 69 Amps. (The fudge factor is because of inverter use, and comes from a post by Raspy.) The heater heats up the space well in 30 minutes, so 69 amps x 0.5 hours = 34.5 amp-hours. I can live with that amount of battery drain. And my wife really likes the bathroom to be warm for her shower.

FYI, This is what someone on fb posted as current sealant used by Oliver, who had spoken to Richie. https://www.americansealantsinc.com/asi-335-neutral-cure-silicone-sealantadhesive/ Sherry