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We picked up our new OTT in November. It’s our second camper, but our first new one. It was also a pretty big purchase for us. Like you, I got pretty spooked by reading about folks having issues with their new campers. Part of the problem for me was having 5 months of waiting til we took delivery during which I could obsess about OTT on this platform... which I did (still do.. )... which lead to worries some times, second guessing at other times. In the end I realized that buying an Oliver is much like anything else.. you just have to hope you get “a good one”.. A camper that was built by folks on top of their game, and that it was done on a “good day”. These things are, after all, built by people, who have good days and bad days just like all of us.. So we crossed our fingers and hoped for the best. we lived in our E2 for the first two months we owned it, and will be back on the road for 6 weeks soon. I feel like in that time we’ve gotten to know it pretty well, though Im sure there will still be surprises.. it is, after all, an RV. The majority of issues have been because of us.. learning new systems, occasionally putting common sense on the shelf... The other issues have been related primarily to components, which are being dealt with by Oliver. As time has passed in #685, the more we’ve been overall impressed with the construction and workmanship, and the more we feel like it was a good decision for us. With our first camper, a Casita, we soon learned that “stuff happens”.. it just does.. we had no experience.. zero.. We learned to deal with it, make simple repairs and what not, and those times became part of the overall experience. It’s been the same with #685.. we’ve run into issues here and there, and self inflicted or otherwise, we have learned from them and gained confidence... and we are loving it.. if you do decide to pick up an OTT, keep plugging away at this forum.. keep track of bits of info that might come in handy in the future.. dealing with stubborn door locks, tilting the camper one way or another to make the gray water drain better .. stuff like that.. and marvel at the other stuff.. like the amazing mudflap modification someone just did, or NCeagles pre cold weather camping study, or the amazing minutia that folks like JD focus on... its quite a group to say the least, and always there to help..

For the most part, and for many folks, annual maintenance is probably it. And, you can have that done at your local rv shop, too. Campingworld, or local shops, offer good prices on winterizing and annual checkup. As in most new purchases, you may have a few hiccups. That's why most of us strongly recommend some time not too far from hohenwald the first few days. Here on our forum, we seem to attract a lot of the extremes. The brand new, never ever had an rv before, or, the technical geniuses, highly experienced rv owners. On balance, it's really nice we have both, but I can see where it can be intimidating to new owners, novice campers. Frankly, I've been camping, and rving, much of my adult life, and a lot of the highly technical stuff requires second and third reads for me. I'll say this. Don't let the technical talk scare you away from getting a trailer, of any brand. The most important thing, to me, is to get out, and enjoy the great outdoors our country (and Canada, when they let us back in:) ) has to offer. And, if all the jargon and stuff makes you nervous, you can go two ways. Scale back, get the minimum options. And/or, dive in, study up, watch the videos in the University, rent an rv or two, and learn at least the basics. Everybody is new the first time. None of us were born with the knowledge or skills. It's a learning curve, but, oh, so rewarding.

Hi Craig, SensorPush Wireless Thermometer/Hygrometer for iPhone/Android - Humidity & Temperature Smart Sensor with Alerts. Developed and Supported in The USA. I'm a "bit" overboard with them - I am using 10 of them for these graphs and I just added 2 more yesterday (one to monitor the backflow valves directly and another to monitor the refrigerator). I also have the gateway so I can see them and they can send me alerts remotely. What can I say - I like data. 🙂

Portland, Maine is warmer than Dallas Texas!! Crazy seeing people in Texas using sleds and skating in their yards (including the vehicles on the roads) Be safe in your travels and do not push delivery dates until it is safe. I do not want to see any Oliver's on the TV reports of traffic pile ups. The weather will change and be more normal next week.

Here are some prints of the main parts needed to mount flaps. i just want to make a couple of points to maybe help someone making this mod. The first one is to remind people that this is a wonderful custom built trailer and like snowflakes they may look the same but each one is unique in it's self. I strongly recommend that you take the print and build a mock up out of a stiff piece of cardboard or a thin piece of plywood. Then put up in place and check the fit of the mount holes and how it aligns with the fender well. This way you will see if adjustments to the holes need to be made. The part that the rubber flap is bolted to has to align perpendicular to the trailers main frame and be aligned with the trailing edge of the wheel well. This way when the rubber flap is bolted on it will extend a little way up into the wheel well and also match the seam of the trim that goes around the outside of the wheel well. You may have to refer to the pictures included in this post to see what I mean, pictures are truly worth thousand words. I suggest getting the main mount plate held by the mounting bolts of the stabilizer jack, checking position and alignment to the wheel well then hold or clamp 3" x 12"long x 1/2" thick plate up against the trailer frame and aligned with the edge of the mount plate. Now transfer the two 1/4" mounting holes positions to the edge of the 3" x 12" plate. These can now be drilled and tapped. On my trailer the curbside stabilizer jack is mounted 1/2" closer to the wheel then the street side that is why there are two sets of prints for that part. They are somewhat picky to install, but I think they are the most effective at protecting the trailer.

Cool, I 2nd, 3rd, & 4th the sentiments above. We were a Sept 2020 PU date, and all but one of the issues we had were associated with understanding what we were reading/viewing from Ollie Univ. And the Library they give you with the delivery. The only Non-User issue we had, Ollie Service was able to explain how to resolve, and I fixed it and we were good. If you actually have a Non-User issue, well OTT Service is a phone call away (and if you are at DCSP, a short trip away), and they will walk you thru a resolution or be "Opening up a Ticket , to resolve it. On the Forums, describing your issue will either get you a helpful response towards resolution or a recommendation to call Customer Service and open a Ticket. The more experienced owners on this forum know the difference between something which can be fixed via Forum Discussion and an Issue that needs to be resolved by Oliver. If a company does not stand With You on a major purchase and follow through with Customer Service, then word gets out, and they will lose their base and future customers and they will go out of business, simple as that. So far all I have seen is “Oliver is in this for the Future". I kind of equate new OTT ownership to Parenting; well at least for the first born, you have 9 months to prepare, and then the delivery day arrives and Holy-Cow what do we do now . Oh Yah, I remember reading about that, or I remember seeing that... Oh is that what they meant??? The one good thing you have available to you here on the Forum, is a lot Aunties & Uncles that have many hundreds of years accumulations of Ollie Parenting. So you can always Crowdsource for the resolution. And if you are into Mod's, well chances are someone (JD et. al.) has thought about it, is working on it, or has Dun-It... And with each Mod, comes a new variation, which garners accolades from others. I look at the OTT Forums as the Test Lab for possible future OTT enhancements, and the Future is Exciting. My buck-two-eighty-five's worth, now we are just waiting for "Oliver TT Weather"... Bryan

I am always a little wary of never lube - but then - what do I know.

We have migrated to what the backpacking crowd calls a quilt - Revelation Quilts (enlightenedequipment.com) - we have two - hers and mine. They are "spendy" but top quality and stuff into almost nothing. RB

SensorPush also has some new units out with better battery life and slightly better accuracy: HT.w and HTP.xw https://www.sensorpush.com/sensor-comparison I'm a big fan. The data is exportable and the mobile app does what it needs to do and nothing more.

I did the same upgrade to the tank on my 2017. The biggest benefit we've experienced is that we're able to stop for fuel where we decide. So we're not forced to stop in California where fuel could go to over $4/gallon and make it to Texas where fuel can run <$2/gallon at some places. Our bladders dictate rest stops, the price of fuel dictates fuels stops...

Well into morning, and no real change - still around freezing, no freezing rain, but there is a band headed this way - about Huntsville. Was a really stupid early AM pile up on 231 Huntsville - black ice is undrivable - I'm sure those folks in the pile-up had no idea until it was to late. Slow or fast - you just slide until stopped..... The really cold air is due tonight. A trip to the woodshed, Will stock up on firewood, stoke the woodstove, and enjoy the Presidents day. I might even spend some time on the bike trainer. Would not be a good day for an Ollie deliver day!! Try later in the week.... Old fashioned mother nature induced social distancing. Many Business are closing for the day, my pool session - included,,,,, Be safe out there. RB g

There will be headaches and a learning curve, and more than just routine annual maintenance. That’s just the reality of towing a small house down the road. But I’ll say that from what I’ve seen on this forum and the Oliver Facebook page, at least half of the issues that new owners have with their Oliver tend to be user error from just not understanding the Oliver or the general towing and campground hookup topics. Being prepared and having a good toolbox when traveling with the trailer means that headaches get solved a lot quicker and easier. So best to study up, watch the YouTube and Oliver videos, read the manuals, and be well prepared. A basic example is the refrigerator. At home you don’t have to worry about checking on 3 different energy sources to make sure your home fridge stays cold. In the Oliver (or most any RV for that matter) it’s a 3 way fridge that can run from DC power, AC power, or propane depending on the situation, so making sure each of those sources is available and working properly when needed is an essential. We’ve only had a couple very minor issues with our Ollie in two camping seasons now. More issues with the campground hookups. There was just a very recent example on this forum of a new Oliver owner that had never towed or owned an RV before, and “didn’t have time to read the instruction manuals”. They had some issues with their new trailer and their new tow vehicle, some due to user error and some legitimate trailer problems. They may have been expecting the romantic vision of life on the open road, but their reality was very different and they were not a “happy camper”.

Maybe. There are so many differing systems and components in and on all RV's all being produced by differing manufacturers that the odds of something(s) not working properly are better than they should be. Being somewhat "handy" is usually not really all that difficult and most of this kind of stuff is fairly easily learned by simply watching some YouTube and listening to what respected contributors have to say. Yes, there are some things where the discussions tend to get more "technical" than is really necessary for the "casual" observer. But, that is really no different than a couple of engineers talking about the inner working of the internal combustion engine when all one might care about is that if the car will get you to the grocery store or how does one wash it. On balance, the more you know about your RV the better prepared you will be to take appropriate measures when a situation presents itself. Bill

One of the many benefits of living in the Southern States. While it can get cold here and it can get hot here, the extremes don't usually last very long. And, that's a good thing.

I'm pretty much on the same storm swath - currently its fine. We will see what tomorrow brings. In 20 years the worst of cold, icy, snowy weather has never last more than a few days. Given the last years restrictions - staying home will be almost normal. Come Friday - this will be a memory. Happy Netflixing all. RB

Hi John This 6061 aluminum, I had little bit of it on hand. It description from the catalog is; This is the most versatile of the heat treatable aluminum alloys. It has most of the good qualities of aluminum, and it offers a wide range of mechanical properties and corrosion resistance. Applications- This grade is used for a wide variety of products and applications from truck bodies and frames to screw machine parts and structural components.

I have a lot of respect for a company that doesn't censor customer feedback/issues on the forums they host and pay for. I don't expect a flawless product because I've read a large percentage of the posts made here over the years; I do expect a trailer that far exceeds the standards found in the rest of the industry. I also have expectations that each year, the quality of the product will improve. This is especially the case when the price increases are outpacing material costs and general inflation. I'll be documenting my trailer's build quality and trouble spots because I want companies like Oliver to succeed and constantly improve. A public forum creates the perfect "feedback loop" for better or worse. Hopefully always the former! 😁

Sharing my modification to bring mudflaps closer to protect everything beyond the wheel well.

Interesting weather pattern - just a touch north and west of us the storm had a real impact. - drive 30 min NW - and its a different world. Much more ice around the hills and dales - not to mention the roads. We had heavy rain that at times attempted to freeze. I am sure it will tonight. RB

We woke up to 7 degrees and 6” of snow with no power. Electricity came on after 8 hours. We put on our cold weather camping gear and had a good fire in the fireplace. 4 degrees tonight. These are all time record lows and snowfall for south Texas. It will be above freezing by the end of the week. I hope the globe does not get much warmer! Mike

I found Oliver trailers sometime during 2017 - I was seriously considering a class C 4wd - of the Elkhart clan. After much consternation - it finally jelled in my mind - the trailer was the more flexible platform - with a 4wd TV. I toured the Oliver factory - visited Oliver at least twice before purchase - and we took Ollie home July 2018. As someone with decades of manufacturing experience - I recognized Oliver was perhaps at the top of the heap in RV manufacturing - but just decent -in the whole. Has my ownership experience been perfect, great, good, met my expectations, or worse. Since I began reading this forum - a constant reoccurring theme has been the various questions, concerns, and praise for the OLIVER quality level - and in a few threads - some - second guessing the purchase altogether. Personal consternation over real or perceived quality issues that arise within days, weeks- or months of delivery. And too their credit - forum members are always eager to help - often with personal experience on an issue. We see repeat issues, we see obvious defective build issues, we see a very responsive service group and we see owner mods that make Ollie better, and we see a community of like minded caring Oliver Owners - a preponderance of them with previous RV experience - or - who are handy with tools, and repair procedures - and have no problem fixing many of the minor things that can go wrong with RV ownership. Lets face it - The modern Oliver RV is a complicated multi system RV that relies on its many parts to work correctly - together- to deliver the experience a new owner expects. As good as the forum experience aids and supports the Oliver brand - when your Ollie let you down - soon after writing that check - good intentions don't help much. So what is a reasonable, realistic customer expectation level for the new Oliver owner at purchase. Is it acceptable to have any of the systems inoperative - at delivery- or within days. Is it ok for a system to be less than fully installed. Is it ok for the delivery day process to be less than top shelf. Is it ok that the service department is relied upon to carry the day - too often. Or, does knowing RV's are historically hit and miss on the quality front, and with Oliver's reputation in mind, we look past the initial disappointment. It's not a Toyota after all. (I couldn't resist poking) Your opinions - your feedback - are important - here - and to me - I can be very critical on the subject - but I attempt to temper my comments - and expectations, due to my time in the trenches of manufacturing hell. I believe Oliver is connected to this forum - as it is a feedback loop, and an important first hand accounting. I also believe - we owe it to ourselves, a personal responsibility - to educate and learn about our purchase - and try to understand the issue at hand. But where does the line of responsibility begin and end. You put $$ down, eagerly waited months, happy anticipation for delivery day, and you fully expect your high dollar purchase will be 100% perfect - right? Well - at least be fully usable. So, after 2.5 years of med/heavy use, at least 4 trips to Oliver service for R n R, a few phone calls for info on this or that, does my experience meet my expatiation. Well - mostly - because I expected less than perfect. I understood the Oliver was only as good as its components and the build process - itself. And I inform and educate myself on the product, as best as I can. Yea Oliver is better than SOB, so what, I bought an Oliver, Would I buy my Oliver again. Probably. But if I was a normal ordinary customer - new to the RV world, my view may be less generous. I don't bleed Oliver, that is Scotts job, but I do care about the brand and how customers feel about their purchase - as I represent Oliver with my purchase and continued use. It is much more pleasant to promote than to defend. So, for those of you out there with less than favorable experiences - hang in there - Oliver will get it right, for the satisfied of you, happy trails, and for the rest of us, well - we're never satisfied anyways - well - not for long. 🙄 RB OFD

You would be surprised at how much warmer a wool blanket is, with a sheet on top. Kind of like insulation. If, you ever feel you need it.

No, they were part of a one-off disk brake experiment Oliver did for me.

This is the dehumidifier we purchased. It doesn't have a great capacity, but has an auto shut off. You can also hook up a drain hose (included) and drain into a larger container. It is very quiet, if you plan to run it while you are on board. It does have a heating element which seems to raise the temperature about 5 degrees.

I think if we didn't already have ours, we might have tried those. Actually, one of the bags was leaking a bit this last trip, so maybe I should take a look at a replacement.

@NCeagle Thanks for the dedicated discussion. I expect this will gather some useful information regarding humidity control. So, you answered one of my questions: PNW conditions (above freezing/high humidity) do not crack vent/windows). I can see where this applies during storage. Would it also be the recommendation while the trailer is occupied (humans and cooking increase humidity) or is that a case where some ventilation is needed? When the trailer is occupied, we generally only heat the cabin during the day, not at night, unless it is extremely cold (when inside temps dip below 45 degrees). Honestly, we rarely camp in those conditions. When we returned from camping (after moderate interior condensation) we ran the dehumidifier for a day or so, with no additional heat. This removed a large amount of moisture; I didn't measure, but I'd say close to a pint. Now we are heating with an oil heater (with no dehumidifier). Maintaining temp around 60 degrees keeps the humidity level at near 50%, which I guess is a healthy level. It will be interesting to see the change when outside humidity gets below 90%+ (if it ever quits raining). I did monitor the basement humidity, with the hatches closed, and it did not get as high as the outdoor humidity. I will do some more testing in that respect. I'm curious to see if keeping the nightstand basement access hatch open makes an appreciable difference. Hoping to learn more as others contribute to this discussion. BTW: we do not have a 30amp plug at home, so when connected, we could probably run both the dehumidifier and heater, but if both kicked on at the same time, it might trip our extension cord breaker (it kicks off before the 15 amp house breaker, which unfortunately also has a freezer plugged into it). The dehumidifier and oil heater together draw approx 10 amps so there is potential for a breaker tripping.

I have to say, we appreciate all the data you send our way, as well.

Mr. Cool - I would imagine normal maintenance will be about all you need to think about, but honestly, there may be some things you will discover - that as you deal with them - will give you a better understanding of your Ollie. In my experience - the more I did normal simple maintenance, winterized, used the boondocking water features, greased the running gear, changed bearings, found the best tire pressures for my situation, added TPMS, and on - the more comfortable I became with my Ollie. And if your one of those folks who is always looking to make something better - well - this forum has the expertise to show you the way. At no time have I regarded my Oliver as anything less than a really good TT. I am always amazed at how well it works off grid, how comfortable we are in BFE, and that I was so smart choosing Oliver.🤣 As others have alluded to - take the time to fully appreciate your Ollie - and it will return the favor. The worst angst you will likely experience - will be the waiting for delivery day! RB OFD

Let's say there are 3 "general" buckets to consider when talking humidity - and each will have a somewhat unique solution. 1. The first is below freezing, cold weather camping where you get condensation / humidity buildup inside the cabin - mainly on the colder surfaces like the windows and walls. In this situation, it is almost always lower humidity outside and cracking a window with the MaxAir fan on makes complete sense. I'm thinking how dry my lips and nose get in the Rockies in the winter - I carry a humidifier (for hotel rooms) with me on ski trips. I have no real data on this situation yet - just educated guesses. 2. The second situation is PNW type humidity - cool and moist. In this situation, the temps are above freezing but not "warm" and the humidity outside is 85%+. Cracking a window and running a fan in this situation will result in pulling in MORE moisture and be counterproductive. A dehumidifier or heat (furnace or electric) with the Ollie sealed up is the best way to keep the cabin humidity under control. This is the situation @Ray and Susan Huffare questioning above. I have some good data on this I can share below. 3. The third situation is common in the summertime, primarily in the SE US. This is HOT and HUMID - I'm talking 90+ degrees and 70+ dewpoints. Heat won't work here unless you want to bake a cake in the cabin heat. 🙂 A dehumidifier almost certainly will be the best in this situation as it doesn't produce quite as much heat. I have no data on this yet, but living in NC I'll have to get it figured out sooner rather than later. For the PNW type humidity, we've had several cold, damp days here in NC. Here's some data to look at and we can then have some fun interpreting... This graph is temperatures: And this graph is humidity: Here are the parameters of the test: 1. Electric space heater (oil) on medium heat (draws 6 amps at 120V) set to 60F. 2. No windows / vents open. 3. The temperature spikes in the late morning each day are from me turning on the gas heat to get the cabin quickly heated to 70F. I often use the Ollie as a nice, quiet place to meditate in the late morning. 🙂 Once the cabin hits 70F, I turn off the gas furnace. The electric space heater is running at all times during all of this. a. On 2/12 it's furnace heat only. b. On 2/13 I first turned on my bilge smart fan for about an hour and a half before turning on the gas furnace (and turning off the bilge fan). c. On 2/14 I turned shore power off and ran the heat on the batteries for 30 minutes or so to drain them to 50%. I then charged them back up to 80%. Some findings... 1. This proves that a space heater set up properly in this type of humidity/temperature situation will keep the humidity in check if the cabin is kept at 60F or so. A healthy humidity level is anywhere between 30% and 60%. I have tried dehumidifiers as well, but I don't think they are as effective in this situation - at least I haven't found one yet - as they don't collect much water and run constantly. They do keep the humidity down, but I suspect mostly by warming the air. The space heater doesn't run all the time - it's off and on as you would expect, so I don't *think* it is taking much more energy if any. Big concern? 1. While the humidity in the cabin is fine, look at the values for the basement. They are VERY high. I think if the humidity stayed this high in the basement for long periods mold and mildew would form. Does anyone have a solution for this? Does anyone open up the hatches in storage and run a dehumidifier to keep the basement from getting mold / mildew? I think my bilge fan may help, but I put it in as a backup for the propane furnace to pull space heated, warm air into the basement.

I've never owned an RV before my Oliver and in the beginning I was frustrated with things going wrong. It did take awhile for the kinks to get worked out, but one thing I will say the service department folks have assisted me on the phone several times and simply being able to talk with someone is priceless. Part of my research into why I bought an Oliver was the good customer service. If you are new to Rving just understand things happen with rv systems and more likely than not you will have some issues. Now that everything is operating as it should I'm a happy camper and you will be as well.

The tank upgrade is in prep for an Alaska trip in the future...and will save us having to more than one jerry can for backup.

Sleeping bags for us, definitely. We tried real bedding but it was too much trouble and honestly just didn't feel like camping. If we were full timers, then I imagine that we'd reconsider. We carry both lightweight and heavyweight bags, plus a couple smaller Rumpl blankets, which are great to have around camp. We've found that instead of sleeping inside the sleeping bags, we'll put one down as the bottom and then one on top as a comforter. That's less constricting and the bottom one acts as extra cushioning. Everything is down, and thus can all be easily stuffed into the top of the closet, with some netting to hold them in place. It takes two minutes tops to put everything away in the morning, leaving us with a great lounge/dining area in the back and not feeling like we're camping in our bedroom.

I’m considering purchasing one of these tongue weight scales. I think it will take some of the guesswork out of the equation. Does anyone on the forum use this scale? Carl https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Tools-pt-Tongue_Weight_Scale.aspx?gclid=CjwKCAiAsaOBBhA4EiwAo0_AnBUPfGgzN1DKXwoSMpSCuw1NqCmGunjpQEKoJsPb2Rla5ZUafUMEMhoCXVoQAvD_BwE

Airsteam has a nationwide dealer network, and distributes trailers to them at a discount so they can decide on the street price for their locale, and survive financially. Oliver has no dealers, no wholesale pricing, no mass production, and no inclination or need to discount a trailer that has a year backlog in orders. Why would they even consider it? It would not make any financial sense. If times go bad, they will continue to produce bathtubs and mobile home accessories, and they will survive until the bad times pass, as they did in 2008. Airstream is owned by Thor, and they do nothing but RVs. They would not have any kind of financial cushion if the economy goes bust and folks quit buying them. https://www.thorindustries.com/thor-companies John Davies Spokane WA

I’m posting from an IPad. Thank you for all effort to help others.

Thanks John. All good advice. Should have listened to wife 3 days ago when she suggested buying some hay bales to put around it. Thought then she was being extreme. Too late where I am to get out safely. But I will look for barricade material. I put truck close to one side.. I stuffed insulation under the propane cover to keep the valves from freezing. Tank heaters were an option I thought was ridiculous on this but pretty happy I have them I guess. Other than a set of switches I have no idea if they work.

Spent three nights last weekend at a local park - Powers (Coos) County Park. It's less than an hour from home, so we often stay here while exploring the surrounding USFS. There is a large pond, for fishing and kayaking, but it was too cold for that. We did some biking and explored FS roads. Powers Park is our basecamp for the annual Tour de Fronds bike ride that we and several of our family participate in each year. It was cancelled for 2020 (Covid), but they are hoping the event will go on this year. Wishing you safe travels.

I have confirmed that Disney uses Lithionics batteries in their ride vehicles and other attractions as they are one of the safest, rated battery makers in the US. For example, their new ride, Rise of The Resistance vehicles are using custom designed Lithionics batteries and they are run all day long, and recharge at a docking port. I'm excited to see them coming in 2022 models and would consider doing a Oliver Service upgrade if they come available.

Bill, by design the tanks are very low and long, and the openings are toward the back, so having the tongue raised a few inches helps with getting all the fluid out. John Davies Spokane WA

For anyone buying bearings from any manufacturer online, there's a relatively new app from the World Bearing Association that helps identify counterfeits. Search "WBA Bearing Authenticato‪r"‬. I used it recently on my ipad (IOS) and I think it's also available for Android.

I modified my sail switch by bending it so as to make it more sensitive to the fan air. Fixed that. Now if I can just get the darned limit switch to keep from kicking off the propane every minute or so (for 20 seconds)... Oh well, at least the sail switch is workingl..

I got the manual for the 9500 (Houghton 2801) today. Looks like it should work very nicely in our limited rooftop real estate. I can't seem to find a way to post the pdf on my phone, but if anyone wants to see the whole Houghton manual, you can send me a pm. The rep added me to a notification list for new inventory of units with the white shroud. 😃 I think it will look great on the roof, if they come back in stock before camping season for us! Thanks again, @Katanapilot. And Overland. Sherry

Pat, Welcome to the forum. My understanding is that the Andersen is the only WDH system recommended for use on the Oliver LEll due to the fiberglass cowling area covering the lower area of the “dog house” aka propane tank housing. This is also what we were told by Oliver. We tow with the Andersen WDH and so far it does what it’s suppose to do. - David

I start out using two cheap bubble levels that I have near the front jack. To fine tune, I just use the bathroom door as a guide. If it doesn’t swing open or shut, then the trailer is level enough for me.

Wow! Looks like a serious snow storm will pass through Snowhenwald, Tennessee. Be safe everyone!

10 degrees and snowing right now in Dallas thus no trip to factory today and tomorrow. Supposed to hit 0 Tuesday am. Never seen it that cold here. All 254 counties in Texas under winter storm warning, crazy.