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Sounds like you pushed forward with confidence. Congratulations and thanks for the nice report. Even having travel trailer camped a lot in the past, a new rig to us will come with it's customary unfamiliarities. Looks like you were more than successful. A couple of things I learned years ago as a newbie. Never be an early bird checking out on Sunday morning. The Type A's that live and work on a "Railroad schedule" are there waiting in line and you can feel the tension if you're unable to get in and out in 7.2 minutes. Also regarding checkout schedule, staying Sunday night and checking out on Monday or even Tuesday is very pleasant, especially if you enjoy a little quiet solitude. A lot of camp grounds and especially state parks are ghost towns by 1-2 pm on Sunday.

Yes, I actually already have a newer SUV 1/2 ton with the tow package. The numbers actually work, but they are close to the edge and I am not really that comfortable with them. I entertained the idea of the smaller LE with my 1/2 ton SUV, but in the end I concluded I really wanted the LEII. I also would prefer not to use the Weight Distribution Hitch. I also think the shorter wheelbase is going to make it a little twitchy on the road. So I talked myself into more capable tow vehicle with a longer wheelbase. I really appreciate all the responses, it is very helpful.

Our AGM’s were 60+ pounds. I replaced them with 3 Battle Borns. So we went from about 260 pounds to less than 100.

This is very true. After all your fresh water has been used, it has moved to the gray or black tanks. The water weight will have increased slightly due to whatever effluvia we have added to it in the using. I have found situations where our fresh tank is nearing empty, the gray tank is full and the black is OK. If we are in an area where it is permissible, I will empty the gray. Then filling the the fresh will leave us with a net gain of the weight of the black water, but ready to continue. Through the years, I've heard many of us say we travel with a full fresh tank. We do and I think it is a good idea. You really never know when you may accidentally find yourself stuck somewhere with no access to water. Folks worry about the mileage hit from hauling the extra weight. Truthfully, according to Newton’s first law of motion, once an mass is in motion, it maintains the same motion unless acted on by force. In other words, after you've gotten the full fresh tank up to speed (using a force from the truck's engine) it does not require any additional force to keep it moving at the same speed.

If there are campers lined up behind us at the dump station, instead of rinsing the black tank, we just dump a bucket of water into the toilet with our normal mix of a cap full of Calgon water softener and a cap full of Dawn dish soap and do a complete black tank rinse at the next opportunity. If I am patient while waiting in line, I expect the same from those behind us. It also gives us a chance to start our dump procedure. I do try to check out the dump site while I coming into the campground so I have an idea of what to expect when my turn comes. I have even gone into a dump from the wrong direction when the slope of the drive would leave me tail high and it was beyond the reach of the front jack. Most RV’s dump from the middle, so the slope may not be a challenge for them. The main thing to remember is go slow and think it through. Mossey

My Bed Platform is perfect for adding needed sleeping room between the twin bed configuration or just more space for your fury traveling companions to sleep with you. It takes inspiration from the “Arts & Crafts” movement with arched cut-outs in the legs and a graceful symmetry of the center spar. This not only lightens the overall weight; it delivers a pleasant work of art. Created to assemble without tools and to fold down for compact storage. Assembled dimensions: 50 1/2” by 17.75” by 19” Storage dimensions 25 1/4” by 19” by 6.5” Weight 23 lbs.

Hi Steve, that’s a very loose interpretation of Newton's law. And that example of the extra weight of full tanks only applies in an ideal world with frictionless surfaces. Frictional forces must always be taken into account in the balance of forces with Newton's laws. In that cartoon illustration, the frictional force of the crate sliding on the floor must be accounted for. The crate won't keep sliding on its own. You have to keep pushing, even to maintain a constant speed. And the heavier the crate, the harder you have to push to maintain a constant speed, because the frictional force increases in direct proportion to the weight. In the real world, every extra bit of mass in the trailer and tow vehicle absolutely will require additional energy to move, even at a constant speed on a level road, for several reasons: -Rolling resistance of the tires increases as the downward loading on the tires increases. -Wheel bearing friction, etc. all increase as well as the mass increases. -Even when towing at a constant speed on a level road, a change in direction (making a turn) is a change in velocity vector (which is still an acceleration) that requires more energy as the mass increases. And of course we don’t drive indefinitely on level roads at a constant speed. There are hills, stop lights, etc. that constantly require acceleration, so more mass means more energy needed.

But then there's Gerrold's Laws of Infernal Dynamics: 1. An object in motion will always be headed in the wrong direction. 2. An object at rest will always be in the wrong place. 3. The energy required to change either one of these states will always be more than you wish to expend, but never so much as to make the task totally impossible.

A great analogy Steve, and I agree 💯. When Kathy and I are traveling and towing our Oliver it is our second home. We always carry a full tank of water, our LP fueled Honda gen, bottled water, plenty of food and many of the creature comforts of home. Needless to say we don’t travel light, but do travel ready to camp and live comfortably while exploring.

Depending on the brand, AGM's weigh an average of 65 pounds per 6 volt battery. That's actually 260 pounds for the 4 batteries. Lithium batteries are considerably lighter than lead/acid. I have 4 x 100Ah Battle Born's that weigh a total of 124 pounds cutting our battery weight in half from what it was when delivered back in 2014.

You are correct that all delivered new Legacy Elite II’s will come with a pair of the same 5200 pound axles that have been supplied on the Elite’s since 2008 and for the reasons you stated. However, the same four leaf spring pack that has always been used with the 3500 pound axles is being retained rather than using the five leaf spring pack that is normally used for the 5200 pounders. Their reasoning behind this is that it gives the trailers a softer ride. Effectively, this means the new LEII’s will still have a GVWR of 7000 pounds since that rating is determined by the measurement of the weakest link in the suspension system.

You are correct, of course, that my application of Newton’s laws is rather simplistic and for it to be realistic, it would probably need to executed in a vacuum using wet ice sliding on wet ice at a constant temperature. My singular intention was to try to dispel the constant fear that carrying a full tank of water will significantly affect your fuel mileage. My real world experience is that I’ve never been able to tell a difference.

Congrats Rich! Sounds like you are having a good time with your new Oliver. We had our share of noob moments! I could not remember how to turn on the water pump. I new about the one in the bath but I couldn't find the one in the cabin. Looked everywhere. Several times I checked the water levels in the fresh and gray but did not notice the water pump switch! When I found it I felt like an idiot! Another one was turning off those touch lights. I forgot they were touch lights and I was getting annoyed that every time I turned on the master switch all those lights would come on. Then it dawned on me, those are the touch lights. Once again, I felt like an idiot! 😁 I haven't found the need to unhitch the trailer when dumping the gray tank. I just put blocks under the front jack and bring the trailer up to where it starts to lift the back of the truck. The same thing I do when putting the Anderson fishtail on. To get that last little bit out, I just rock the trailer a bit and it usually comes right out.

Murphy’s Law always applies! 🙂

What about Murphy’s Law? 😂

That said, a 3/4 or 1 ton truck is definitely not a requirement. I'd guess the majority here tows with half tons. More power, the better, is true with any tow combination, but, hey. If you already own a half ton with tow package, love the one you're with. Lots of factors to consider.

Definitely makes it easier to upgrade to disc brakes, though not sure it's worth it performance wise. I have 5.2k axles under my LE2 and braking performance is excellent, even when loaded near capacity.

We always travel with a full fresh tank as well, so we have water for rest stops on the road, and also to be prepared if the destination campground has water quality or availability problems. I like being prepared, and a well stocked Ollie can provide shelter, food and water for an extended time.

Amen. Good for you!. If you are not comfortable with your existing TV and how it would perform for your camping needs, then by all means look to the heavier and more capable trucks. Just be aware that IF your TV is also your daily driver then there are down sides that come into play. Some of them are: They do not handle as well. The ride quality for daily driving certainly is not as good. The MPG for daily and in most cases towing is not as good. The cost to buy, operate, maintain, and repair are certainly more expensive. The fun factor to drive is not as good. Finding a place to park is harder. As said before, by all means buy what YOU need.

"Thanks, Rich! Our new Oliver will be our first travel trailer with electric, plumbing, or gas. Maintenance on the square drop is pretty basic! Plus, this will be 12 feet longer than what I have now." You'll be pleasantly surprised at how much easier it will be to back up because it's longer. Shorter trailers are harder. John

Apparently, you missed his comment ("...I am in the market for both a Tow Vehicle and a LEII..."). I took that to mean that he is literally in the market for a Tow Vehicle, i.e. I don't have a tow vehicle, I need to buy one and I don't want to screw up and buy something that is too small where I'll have to learn to live with what I've got.

I'm glad you are using this method to buy your outfit. You will be glad of it and will get the most for your money. Most people decide they want a trailer, pick one out and "hope" their intended tow vehicle will be sufficient. Hope is not a strategy. Study and understand the numbers. If you don't understand them ask questions. Oliver's are not lightweight trailers. They never were. Most of the trailering world believes fiberglass trailers are light. They are incorrect. You can't have a tow vehicle that is too big. You may have more than you need but, in my opinion, that's perfectly acceptable. It took me 5 different tow vehicles to finally get there but now I can tow any trailer currently made and haul everything that either of us may ever need. Towing an Oliver Elite II Travel Trailer can be an excellent experience. Any vehicle other than a 3/4 ton or a 1 ton truck (or larger) will require an Andersen hitch to tow an Oliver Elite II to be safe and legal. Any vehicle requiring an Andersen hitch is not as good as a 2500 or 3500 truck for towing or hauling cargo. Using the Andersen is just subtracting 66 pounds from your Cargo Carrying Capacity in an attempt to adapt the wrong truck to the right trailer. Don’t buy the wrong truck.

Yep, we will eventually have a few Ollie projects to do, hope just one at a time. 🙂 The brake drums/shoes, 3 way refrigerator, and hot water heater are operating fine right now. Already installed the Dexter EZ flex system. Have a MPPT solar controller to install next, slight weight gain. This will finish the solar charging project. Bill

Our 2015 LE2 #75 was one of the few that year to get 5.2K axles. Dexter drum brake assemblies work great and when we need to rebuild them, will probably go with disc brakes. We keep the weight of our Ollie very light, works great for our style of camping. Use two 5 pound capacity LP tanks, one 31 pound Battle Born 100AH lithium battery, keep Ollie's spare tire in the pickup truck bed, and empty black, grey, fresh water tanks during travel. Our Ollie was not equipped with factory solar, we carry two 100W suitcase solar panels in the TV. The 6 gallon hot water heater has about 50 pounds of water. Our LE2 ready to camp weight is around 4940 pounds with 480 pound tongue weight. Checked rig/TV ready to camp weights with CAT Scales last summer.

Hi Everyone, This is a few weeks out of date as this pesky job keeps me busy. But I wanted to share my experience while it is still fresh in my mind and hopefully some of these comments will help, especially for 1st time travelers. I suspect a few of the veterans of the group will reflect fondly on these rookie mistakes. In no particular order: First Night: 1. Stay at the Oliver Travel Trailer campsite when picking up your Ollie. I suggest an AM pickup so staff is still around during daylight hours. The walk-through was awesome. After years of looking at YouTube, it is very much different to be in your trailer. It's actually YOURS! There is a very distinct "new-trailer" smell and it is even better than a "new-car" smell. Lots to go over, and much of it gets lost when you are on your own. I must have made the walk from my campsite to the office at least 10 to 12 times. All of my questions immediately answered. But some simple things that just needed to be fixed / corrected. And a few "what is that sounds" and "is this normal"? They were so patient and kind (especially Hannah). 2. It was COLD. There was still ice on the trees but the heater did it's job. The cabinets and closets stayed pretty cold, but overall I was comfortable. I do find in very cold temperatures the vents in the front of the trailer did not produce as much heat as the bed vents. And those vents don't rotate. I broke a blade and Hannah came out and replaced it in no time. 3. Get a sewer house wrench. One of those Camco ones. Perhaps it was the temperature, but I found it very hard to get the hoses on and off. 4. Practice dumping at the Oliver Campsite. But you have to make sure the Ollie is off the hitch so gravity could do its job. There was a fair amount of grey water still left when I got to the next campsite. Luckily it was grey. First Time Towing: 5. For some reason, I was worried about a Brake Controller. Never using one before, I used a Bluetooth one on my Armada and it was pretty simple to change and configure. Basically drive about 20-25 miles per hour, hit the button, and see how the trailer breaks slow down the truck. Adjust as needed. I did need to adjust this a bit throughout the trip - but it was easy once I got the hang of it. 6. With the Anderson hitch, It was a very comfortable tow. I took it easy and went down Natchez Trace Parkway. Not many cars on the road but it was perfect to ease me into the trip. I mostly just stayed at KOA's as I felt it was easier to get pull through sites initially. The second day I took State Roads to Texarkana, and by the 3rd Day I was comfortable on the Interstates. I do recommend easing into it if this is your first time. You'll get the feel and that nervousness wore off over the first few days. I did stop and torque the tires as directed. Made me feel like I knew what I was doing - even though I never owned a torque wrench in my life. 7. Yes - in freezing temperatures, don't hook up your hose. Fill your Fresh Water tank. The KOA host told me next time, I could also just open up my grey tank and key the water dripping all night. But that leads me to my next experience - everyone along the way was very kind and helpful. 8. OK - this was a BIG ONE, probably the biggest safety issue but having a checklist matters. When I arrived at my second campsite, I noticed the receiver pin was half-way out! Follow a checklist! How it got loose, I have no idea. But luckily I had a pin-lock and was able to put it on. First Time Getting the Look: 9. People LOVED asking me about my Oliver. Gas stations, rest stops. Wal-Mart (shopping, not camping). I stayed at this KOA Resort in Tuscan AZ with full-timers in these massive Diesel Pushers - they stopped to ask me about My Oliver!! You'll feel good towing this behind you. For those in the know, they know quality. Only issue ... my Stove Glass came loose. Seems there are tiny bolts that hold the screws on and it most likely was not tight during the install from Dometic. The road shook them off and I suspect they are somewhere in the bottom of the trailer. I did find one in the drawer. Overall, I was a bit nervous. But for you first timers, you can do it. The team at Oliver has your back. They want you to love your Ollie, they want you to enjoy it for years to come, and they want you to be safe. I felt very much supported through the entire process. Thanks again to all of you for your advise too. Much appreciated. Look forward to meeting some of you soon. Rich

That is correct. I'm guessing if they put the heavier springs on the LE2 it would ride like a log wagon to the detriment of everything on board. I did say "but you do have increased actual axle capacity", not increased trailer load capacity. You do get the benefit of more brake capacity and heavier bearings, so there are performance gains with the same ride quality for the trailer. I mentioned this in the context of the OP's questions about the newer LE2's having increased dry weight over older models. This is why I emphasized the heavier undercarriage, which of course is because of the heavier axles. I didn't do a very good job of articulating my point.

I would start by vacuuming the discharge hose just behind the street side rear tire. If no Joy then: Remove the air distribution cover inside your Ollie, you will see two tubes that come into the 14" X 14" roof penetration. Suggest you disconnect at the "T" that connect the two tubes (from the small drain cups that are outside the roof penetration) and the line that drains down. Then vacuum suck out the contamination/crud that way. If that does not work try a copper wire with the end bent so as not to poke a hole. If that does not work, you likely will need to remove the Dometic and service the cups and lines from above. GJ

Brian: I'll be getting my first set of air bags this season. So please pardon the "New Bagger" question. I am hoping to be able to restore proper head light aim, and fully restore the truck to factory level so as to maximize spring travel. Is this realistic? Thanks, GJ

I have owned a Dodge 3500 crew cab SRW (single rear wheel), 8' box for the last 20 yrs. Even my 2018 Tundra is a crew cab with 8' bed. Both trucks have hard shell toppers/. My views on trucks is rigid old school and that anything less than a 8' bed is not a true pickup. I realize this is a personal and likely silly opinion to hold and like my face, it is not for everyone. 😉 This said, I have never wished either of my trucks had larger cabs or shorter beds. When not hauling the Ollie, they serve as junk, plywood, motorcycle, lawnmower haulers and short term camping rigs Having the 8' bed helps in all of these uses. The longer wheelbase of each pickup also makes for a stable ride when hauling the trailer. I would dissuade you from a dually if the only hauling you do is the Ollie. Best of luck in your search for a Tow Vehicle.

Since acquiring our Hull # 050 in 2014, we have used three different tow vehicles. A 1500 gas pickup, a 2500 diesel pickup and now a 3500 diesel pickup, it being perfect for the way what we want to travel. I really can’t tell any ride quality or handling issues between the three trucks. The fuel mileage is much better with the diesels as opposed to the gas burner. Everything about a diesel costs more. For myself, I absolutely love driving one of the largest personal vehicles on the road and over the past 50 or more years I’ve always parked at the furthest side of the lot so parking space has never been an issue.

@Steve Morris, I've taught a bunch of people to use dumps. But, I encouraged them to just put clean into the toilet/ black tank. Cleaner water everywhere. Much nicer experience if there's a first timer mistake.

UNLESS you have the Truma Aventa air conditioner. Since Truma will not allow installation of a Micro Air Easy Start in its units, you must have 3kw to start and run the Truma Aventa AC unit with an inverter/generator. That is why we carry two 2kw dual fuel Champion inverter generators with a Paralink kit. When running on propane, the two units generate about 3060 watts combined, which is barely enough to run the Truma Aventa AC. So, with the Truma Aventa AC, the EU3200 would not be "overkill;" it would be necessary to run the air conditioner.

I'm with you. And I too am baffled when people ask me questions like, "how do you know how to do that". I've always sought out knowledge about anything I endeavor to do, it used to be the library and how to magazines. Today it's the internet and YouTube primarily. I never was that good in school as a student of the established system of learning. But I've always been very good at finding answers to my questions and more so on the how to of things I've yet learned to do. When I get asked that question I just refer them to the internet. Often you get the "that's too much trouble" look in return. Oh well.

Thanks, Rich! Our new Oliver will be our first travel trailer with electric, plumbing, or gas. Maintenance on the square drop is pretty basic! Plus, this will be 12 feet longer than what I have now. We have two nights booked at Camp Oliver and two at David Crockett State Park before leaving the area. Good to know that there is a dump station at Oliver. I had visions of me trying to learn Sunday morning at DCSP with everyone in the campground lined up waiting on me!! 😬

Campground Reservations FYI for anyone planning to head to Canada. Canada National Parks is updating their reservation system. If you have ever had an account with them you will need to set up a new account starting March 3rd. The good news is for this year it is not too late to make reservations. The system is doing a staggered roll out. Reservations for this year open at different times based upon Provence and Park. For example Jasper National Park opens March 16th and Banff National Park March 23rd. Leave it to the Canadians to do it in a civilized fashion. Instead of midnight, the reservations open at 8 AM in the time zone of the park.

A couple of days ago Jason did a walkthrough of a 2023 trailer on YouTube, he did it live, and I happen to catch it Live. I only watched the beginning of it, because I was busy and was going to watch it later. It, however, never got posted. Since I am in the market for both a Tow Vehicle and a LEII, I am doing some sizing analysis. I did see enough of the trailer, to basically conclude it is loaded with all the Oliver options, this includes the Platinum Lithium package. During the video he showed the tire and loading information sticker on the side of the trailer. I screen grabbed it, because I want to use that information for my vehicle sizing. Hence this post, these trailers are gaining significant weight from the factory. I attached the screen grab, but since it contained the VIN number, for the future owner privacy, I decided to blank the VIN number out. On the website the LEII trailer weight (Dry) is listed as 4,900 lbs and 490 tongue weight (10%) This trailer is coming in at 7,000 lbs - 1,530 lbs = 5,470 lbs If we go with full tanks for sizing purposes: 32 gallons fresh water + 32 gallon gray + 15 gallon black = 79 gallons, 79 gallons * 8.34lbs/gal (fresh water weight) = 659 lbs Therefore with tanks full and the trailer completely empty the "loaded options" full wet trailer is sitting at 6,129 lbs. At 10% tongue weight that is 613 lbs, 12% 735 lbs. Realistically I think it would be easy to add 500 lbs of "things" into the trailer. That fattens things up to about 6,629 lbs, 10% tongue weight 663, 12% tongue 795 lbs. Add a generator and some gas in the aluminum basket at 75 lbs and with12% tongue weight you could be sitting at 870 lbs tongue weight. I wanted to post this because I've read many posts from experienced Oliver owners that talk about Oliver trailer weight gain. It really hits you, however, when you actually see the 2023 tire and loading information first hand.

We run with full fresh and empty gray/black whenever possible. Having a full tank of water we KNOW is good is just smart planning. It eliminates both health concerns and concerns with some ultra hard water scaling issues that more than a few camp grounds provide.

John - this is a common problem, esp with trucks. First, they are higher off the ground and even if the headlights are level, sometimes they blind on coming traffic. To make matters worse, fully load the bed and attach a trailer and you get just enough squat to make matters worse. For those of us without the “magic switch”, airbags are the next best thing to getting back to level. I measure the height of the tailgate to the ground and inflate to bring the truck to factory level. Seems to work. Brian

Wow that's nice. This is one accessory we will probably be looking into down the road. I'd heard of this somewhere but this is the first time seeing one. Love all your fine work and will be in touch as we figure out which items we need to add to our Ollie once delivered.

Roger: Where did you obtain the dial dimmer switches for the Porch Lights and Outside Courtesy lights?

@Foy_Mirna Well done!! We are seriously considering this but would like one half the length to put in front of nightstand so as not to block the entire aisle so we can still easily get to the overhead cabinets while standing in the aisle as well as being able to get out of the beds easier. If we had one half the length just to have enough “bridge” for our dog to sleep and walk across it would still leave some aisle for getting into cabinets and getting out of bed. Is this something you could do?

The neat thing about the Jeep ducks is the randomness: see a Jeep in the grocery store parking lot, duck it, and drive away unseen. Harder to do with Ollies. If they're in a campground with you, you'll probably just say Hi. Other than that, probably not often you'll come across one unattended and ready for Ottering. That said, I think it's a cute idea, and I might keep a couple otters in the truck, just in case. Cheapest one I could find on Amazon: Schleich Wild Life New 2023, Marine and Ocean Wild Animal Toys for Kids and Toddlers, Otter Toy, Ages 3+ https://a.co/d/aPWt89i

Yep that was part of the discussion as well. The components on the 5K axles are more universally available and the brakes and hubs are a more standardized size than those on the 3.5K axles. Lug pattern matches more available wheels, etc. I was very surprised and happy when he told us about this change. All part of a push to streamline components, suppliers, inventory and parts management. He talked a lot about efforts to better organize the assembly process as it applies to component management. Obviously to improve everything and get more efficient in the process, reduce errors and probably increase throughput as well I'm sure. All positive.

We have the Laramie trim, Crew Cab and 6’4” bed. It’s my daily driver when not towing. When we camp, we fold the back seats flat for extra storage. The bed has been nice (I was coming from half tons with a smaller bed). The fuel tank is no issue, we have to stop for other reasons before it gets empty anyway! I get a couple miles more per gallon with the diesel than I did with the gas V8’s and towing is noticeably easier. I wouldn’t want a much longer truck, I do garage mine and have only about 5” of space in front and behind in the garage. We live in the land of big pickup trucks everywhere, but parking can still be challenging even with our shorter wheelbase. I usually park out where I have maneuver room. We also like the Laramie trim level. Mike

And don't let anyone distract you. That includes spouses and dear friends. I have a rule: DON'T TALK TO ME WHILE I'M HITCHING UP/UNHITCHING. I've damaged campers by breaking that rule. Luckily, nothing serious and no injuries, but still... We were at a campground where a guy dropped his new fifth wheel on his head because his son came over and was talking to him while unhitching. He went out in a helicopter and the police rinsed the blood out of the back of his truck so his family wouldn't have to deal with it when they came back. (This was also an abject lesson on the importance of always chocking your trailer wheels before you unhitch.)

Congrats on your new Ollie!! Checklists have saved me in just the few times we have been out, setting up and taking down, Our first multi-day stay was at a COE in the northern part of Mississippi and we got a spot right on the water. About 30 minutes after we get setup a nice man came paddling up in a kayak and asked us how we liked our Oliver. Turns out he used to work for Oliver a few years back, He even offered assistance if we needed any during that weekend.

I agree 100% on having a checklist. It only takes 5 minutes to go through it, but it verifies everything is ready for travel.

Craig, Thanks for that link, very informative. I am currently in the market for a tow vehicle and a LEII, so as I stated in another post, I am doing some sizing analysis. For the tow vehicle the trucks offer a 2 alternator option, with the second alternator coming in at 220 amps for 440 amps total. Presuming the first alternator covers all the needs of the truck, then I would have an entire alternator with 12v 220 amps to refill the lithium batteries. On the 2023 LEII the Victron charger is set to 12v 150 amp bulk charge. The bulk charge time for the 12v 640Ah batteries is about 4 hours. If I could get 12v 150amps from the alternator system for a DC/DC charging, then I would not need a 3,000 watt generator plus gas. I could just run the Diesel truck for 4 hours. From what I've been reading the Ram Cummins Diesel burns about 1 gallon every 3 hours at idle, 0.33 gallons/hour. So for 1.3 gallons of Diesel I could bulk charge the Lithium batteries that were almost empty. That is presuming, of course, at idle the 440 amp alternators have 150 amps to spare at idle. The new Honda EU3200i is rated at 3.3 hr. @ rated load, 8.6 hrs @ 1/4 load. 150 amps *12 = 1800 watts. That's about 56% of rated power. It looks like that is somewhere around 5.5 hours per tank which is 1.2 gallons or 0.218 gallons/hour at 1800 watt load. For 4 hours = 0.87 gallons The difference isn't as much as you might think intuitively. Ram Cummins Diesel at idle 1.3 gallons, Honda EU3200i about 0.87 gallons at 1800 watt load. ************************ The other interesting option is to DC/AC convert about 3,000 watts and plug it in to the 120v 30amp trailer. Then you could charge the batteries and run the A/C in the trailer at the same time. 1800 watts for the bulk charging and 1200 watts for the A/C. That's presuming that the 440 amp alternators have 250 amps to spare at idle. That would be more efficient than running the Honda EU3200i, since it would be at rated load which is 0.36 gal/hour or 1.45 gallons for 4 hours. 1.3 gallons of Diesel for 4 hours for the Cummins.

Our trailer was about 4,900 lbs when they pulled it out of the factory for delivery in May 2016. The Dexter suspension wasn’t available then. Other than that, we had most options available to include four AGM batteries. Mike

I would delete the app and reinstall it. When you scan the code make sure you cover up the bar code and only scan the QR code. The ones I bought from summit did the same things until I took these steps. Also if you choose offline check you you can scan all the codes at once and then hit validate all codes. Works a little faster that way. John