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Perhaps its getting to be a little late but thought and prayers are with all of you located within the path of this storm. Please be as safe as you can. For those not familiar with these storms, the predictions of the track of the hurricane is still not certain. This makes it difficult for those wishing to travel away from the major impacts. Bill

@hobo, my apologies. Please see photos below. Note the screens are not in the fully closed position in some of the photos. As I mentioned, there was some variability on the edges of the sliding windows, however, the rubber edge trim conforms reasonably well to close small gaps between the mounting plates and windows. How effective this is in preventing water penetration remains to be seen. I anticipate we will have opportunities to conduct field tests during our trip to Colorado over the next 2-½ weeks. I would not rule out the possibility for the vents to be mass produced, but I have not had any opportunity to test them across model years of LEII trailers. The most critical dimension to control is the depth to which the rear of the louver vent projects inward, toward the sliding screen, before there is interference. There is space above and below the mounting plates. The vertical position of mounting plates is determined by the match of the upper and lower curves of the mounting plate fit with that of the windows. I have no idea how much dimensional variation there might be in windows installed by Oliver over the model years.

The payload is OK, I think it is over well over 800 pounds. I haven’t found that darned payload sticker yet. And the salesman assured me it had the Tow Package, but I can’t find the receiver! I admit that I did have a really hard time understanding him… but Google Translate was really helpful! .😬 I really hope this truck will work, if not can I modify it? Maybe 2000 pound airbags? (Those will increase my payload to 2800, correct?) I already placed an order for a new Ollie LE2 with all the options! BTW, I will be primarily boondocking in the Colorado High country, and I also hope to drive to the Arctic Circle... so I am also looking for an in-bed fuel tank, not too big, maybe 100 gallons. So far I haven’t found one. Please help. Thanks in advance! https://www.hotcars.com/chinas-svh-tundar-blatantly-ripping-off-the-tundra-pickup-may-not-sit-well-with-toyota/ John Davies Spokane WA

I can’t wait to see the upgraded Tundar TuRD Pro off-road package with the huuuuge 14” wheel option and plastic skid plates 😂.

I want to thank all of you for your suggestions. Since the other gas appliances were all working, you were right that it had to be some problem with the gas feed for the stove alone. Since both burners were not working, the main supply to the stove must have had an air blockage for some reason. No, I would not stick anything into the brass orifices that could damage them. I was about to take the top of the stove off by removing the two screws that hold it in, but I had a brainstorm. That was, why not try my portable car vac (armorall)? I plugged it into the ceiling circular orifice that is similar to the old cigarette lighters cars used to have back in the "good old days". Flipped over the builtin crevice tool on the vac, and vacuumed around each burner, figuring I might either dislodge something, or even create suction on the jets. Voila! Both burners light...without disassembling the stove top! Once again, this camper is happy, and can now eat inside our land yacht! Again...A big thankyou goes out to all of you. Charlie Citrus Breeze

1. I noticed that the rear bike receiver blocks the 2 rear red reflectors so I added a couple of red oval reflectors to the bike receiver mount. I wanted to be sure the trailer was visible when parked at night. [ALL STAR TRUCK PARTS] Oval Reflectors Red/Amber Self Adhesive Or Drill Mount Quick Mount SAE 13 DOT (Red, 2) https://a.co/d/4ormHOs 2. The electronic lock doesn't give you much to hold onto on the interior side. I can see how others lost control of the door on windy days. Didn't want to risk the same damage so I added a grab cord to the interior lock handle. On a windy day you can grab this while you open the door. I just looped it through the existing hole at the top of the handle.

We have 60 acres and lots of room for anyone that wants to come get out of dodge. The only issue is we live in Ohio but any and all are welcome.

My understanding from reading the Tundra forums is that there is a bit of anger over Toyota opting out of the tranny cooler on the 20's and 21's. Many have used scan gauge tools to measure their temps while towing and have had high temperature readings. I've owned three V8 Sport 4Runners prior to my Tundra and they all had external coolers. There are a few owners who are opting for adding aftermarket. There are even kits available. I may do this down this road if I ever head west. My son even added one to his brand new Jeep Gladiator Rubicon as he tows a 19' sticky. I think it was a poor decision from Toyota to leave it off the build.

Hull 806 here.... I have the same model generator....are you using a neutral bonding plug? This is a must have. You can buy them...I made one via youtube and it works fine.

If you preorder your Tundar today it should come in by April 1.

"Before it gets cold" may seem like a smart a** answer but it really does seem to work. Bill

Don't worry about a sticker - the salesman would never lead you astray

Cameron, predictable events like a hurricane give plenty of warning, just clear out promptly and head a couple of hundred miles inland. You definitely do not want to be near sea level. Tornados OTH are completely unpredictable. If a truly nasty storm system was approaching, I would hitch up, disconnect any hoses or cords, retract the awning, and pack everything for a really quick departure. I would also retract the stabilizers! With them down, the trailer can’t move around on the suspension, and any severe wind might rock it and drop it back down, which would break things. I do this routinely in wildfire areas, they can flare back up without warning, and I always try to have an emergency exit route different from the way I came to the site. I try hard to never camp at a short spot that won’t allow me to stay hitched. Super volcanoes (Yellowstone Caldera), wayward asteroids, widespread nuke attack …… let’s not go there. You would just be SOL. I hope you Florida members stay safe and secure. Good luck. John Davies Spokane WA

John: How did you purchase that China Tundar? Funny that your pictures on your post are the same pictures in the link you provided!

Nice job! I was thing of installing a new door window with a 50% slider glass and a screen to ventilate during a rain. It’s the only vertical window we have and I wouldn’t mind a little rain water by the door during a rain. Started searching for a manufacturer.

While camping in Arkansas in May of 2019, I found a fair amount of water running off the rear curbside roof while the AC was running. I figured out that if the lowest point of the Ollie was the curbside, then the condensate water rain off the curbside roof. If the low point was the street side, the condensate drained through the internal drain tube and out under the Ollie as it should. That allowed us to manage the condensate water drainage as needed. When I finally got around to troubleshooting the actual problem I found out Oliver had installed a Dometic accessory drain kit which consisted of 2 white plastic cups and vinyl tubing and 4 screws and 3 or 4 hose clamps. There is an accessory cup on both sides off the AC unit that receive the condensate from the steel drain pan built into the the base of the AC. The drain kit tubing connects the accessory drain cups to Oliver’s internal drain tubing. I could see the internal drain pan after pulling the AC shroud and a few other parts off. Without the accessory drain kit the condensate would exit the drain pan and onto the roof through a drain hole on each side. So RV's with the Dometic AC but without the accessory drain kit would experience water running off the roof under normal conditions while running the AC. Some Oliver owners on the forum have replaced their Dometic AC's and report that the condensate runs off the roof and down the low side of the trailer because there wasn’t a option to connect the new AC to the internal Oliver drain system. After an initial inspection of the drain system, I leveled the Ollie side to side and front to back and began adding water to the condensate drain pan. The result was that some water ran off the roof on the curbside and some drained through the Oliver internal drain on the street side. That result caused me to consider that perhaps there was a blockage in the curbside drain tube, so I disconnected the curbside tubing at the tee fitting that separates the accessory cups and used a can of compressed air to verify the tube was clear and it was. Then I lowered the curbside side and plugged that tube and then added water to the main drain which resulted in water leaking onto the roof. The accessory drain cup and tubing connection is not really visible with the AC unit mounted but it did seem to me the water was leaking from that connection. So I ordered this kit and a second AC mounting gasket because the kit comes with one and two are required to raise the AC unit high enough to allow clearance for the drain cups. I then sat on the repair parts for months waiting for an opportunity to obtain access to an air conditioned shop a friend has access to. That happened this month and the repair is complete and the drains work as they should. It did require removing the AC and flipping it onto it’s back to remove and replace the old gaskets and drain cups and that did make the broken cup connector visible. Here are few pictures for everyone that stayed awake during this dissertation. This last picture makes the original break visible by the discoloration on the bottom and sides of the connector. The lighter portion of the break was on top and still connected when we flipped it over and snapped it off completely. Mossey

Oh my Goodness. We are planning on leaving on our FIRST trip of the season this coming Saturday.

I usually winterize in late October or early November here in our part of PA. That’s when the overnight temperatures can start getting below freezing at night. I don’t like to take any chances. There was one Oliver owner who posted a horror story here on the forum of all the damage caused to his trailer by getting caught “un-winterized” during a cold spell. It pretty much destroyed every part/component of the water system. A very expensive repair bill.

6 to 10 weeks after the cicadas start singing.

There are several "apps" for a smart phone that (as long as the phone is on) will alert you to severe weather. This includes tornados, thunder storms, earth quakes, wild fires, flooding events and even rip currents at the beach. I've found Severe Weather App to be particularly useful because it uses the GPS in your phone to know where you are located and only gives you alerts for that location. Therefore, I do not need to know exactly what county I'm presently in. Obviously you need a cell phone signal for it to work though. Bill

Prayer for all affected.🙏🏼

Maybe I should have watched this video first before I made my comment, it's a fake Tundra. trainman

John, I know you are a Toyota person and that's ok, for myself we have a Toyota built Lexus. I myself living in Texas and Toyota Tundra's being built here I would have to go with one of the Texas built vehicles. There must be a big difference in price between the two Tundra's so maybe that will work for some. I would also keep in mind factory warrantees and where would you get warrantee work done here in the U.S. Maybe I missed something here as to dealers, service work, etc., but it wouldn't be for me. For myself I have to have styling as well as performance, so this vehicle would be out for me. I know I'm selling our trailer, so my comment on this vehicle is probably and is only my opinion of said vehicle, so if it works for some, go for it. trainman

I now have a Veepeak scan tool that plugs into the OBD2 port on my 2019 Tundra. $14 from Amazon. It communicates with my Android smartphone via Bluetooth, through an app downloaded for $5. So, the total cost was under $20. I plan to monitor transmission pan temps when towing (after we pick up our Elite II on November, and in warmer temps next year) to inform our decision whether to install an aftermarket transmission cooler. I have inferred from posts on the Tundra forums that Toyota is claiming that transmission temps up to 250 degrees Fahrenheit when towing are "acceptable." Yet, Toyota is now installing transmission coolers on 2022 Tundras, after leaving them off the 2019-2021 model years. Hmmm.......

Our basement (hull 414, last 2018 model produced) holds two small and one large milk crate. The two smalls go on the right side where it's deepest, and the large crate is on the left side of the compartment. There is also some additional space on the right ahead of the two smaller crates for other "stuff". We too put all of our landing gear (chocks, levelers, blocks, etc) in the front basket when we don't bring the 3500W generator with us. When we carry the generator, we put the landing gear baskets in the very rear of the pickup bed so it's right there when we drop the tailgate.

As I previously stated, "the 2023 Sequoia (in 2WD) will have a maximum tow rating of 9,520 pounds". I don't personally consider that, 'a great towing ability'. It's an OK towing ability and is probably adequate for an Elite II under most conditions. But, most folks aren't going to want a 2WD and will opt for a 4WD which will further reduces the towing capacity as will any of the options that we add to make our tow vehicles into something we actually want to own and drive. Unless you are Scarlett Johansson or Audrey Hepburn, good looks won't get you too far down the road.

Good thinking with the vacuum. That way, if the air movement dislodged the blockage, it would be pulled out. I tried to unblock an air hose years ago that had a dirt dauber nest in one end by hooking it up to a compressor. All I managed to do was to push the nest deeper into the hose. I was finally able to get it cleaned out with water and more air. Thanks for adding information to your signature. I modified it slightly by adding your model year - 2021. The reason for this is since Oliver has made numerous changes in components and options over the years, when posting related to these, listing your Oliver’s year and model, and the brand of the components makes the group’s responses much more informed.

I'd probably use canned compressed air, instead. I have used that in the past. Or, dismantle, and clean jet with chemical. Turn off lp first.

Smart idea. Glad it worked. And, smarter than my paper clip suggestion. Should I encounter a burner issue, I will try your portable vacuum method.

Camping world. Rv center. Amazon.

Giant tom thumb donuts.... Interesting

Thanks, Steve I was just researching on the old internet, and read about the necessity of a neutral bonding plug. I hope to find one near where we are camping tomorrow. Hull 734 Charlie Citrusbreeze

That doughnut looks scrumptious! The last two campouts, we experimented with refrigerator cinnamon rolls on the Skottle. First time we "baked" them, putting water in the bottom, a cooling rack, and then the rolls in a pie pan, covered for about 40 minutes. Came out okay, but not very browned. All eight were like that one gooey center roll that everyone likes. Last week we smashed the cinnamon rolls like a Smashburger, and then fried them. These came out more dense and crispy. Both were very tasty, but also very different.

We had what appears to be the same experience as @Steve and Cindy following delivery of our LEII. Water ran down the wall below the windows to pool along the edge of the beds. Their description of the leak matches what we saw. We returned to Hohenwald, where Oliver Service resolved the problem. They reported a butyl rubber seal had not been installed by the manufacturer of the windows. Oliver installed the butyl seal and returned the trailer to us within about two hours. Since this corrective measure was taken we have NOT had any leaks from the windows, nor elsewhere. Our Hull is #990. I suspect there was a batch of windows with this problem in common.

Ours has a valve that shuts off the flush line going into the black tank. It looks like the fresh water tank drain valve. Like Steve says, it’s under the forward dinette seat. Mike

Please do not jam a paper clip into a precision brass orifice, carefully or otherwise. You’ll create additional problems for yourself, likely expensive. If you decide this is necessary (unlikely on a newer trailer), you’ll need a probe softer than the brass jet, think more like broom straw, brush bristle, or my favorite, a single strand from a multi strand copper wire. I’ve cleaned dozens (hundreds?) of jets on small engines and RV appliances. Please don’t ruin your jet by ‘cleaning’ it with a paperclip.

Personally I would not consider any SUV or 1/2 ton pick up a “great towing vehicle” after towing with a one ton diesel F 350. We started out towing our Oliver LE2 with an 2014 Tundra with an WDH hitch. It towed ok, but really worked hard in the mountain passes. We soon sold and moved to a much safer and capable TV. We took a hard pass on the 2022 Toyota Tundra for our needs as we felt it was a marginal TV with regard to 1400# cargo capacity, braking, and power after crunching the numbers. 1400 lbs or 1500 lbs of pay load is splitting hairs with regard to being well with in safe legal cargo limits with what we carry. I don’t want to think about how much cargo capacity I am crunching numbers on..ever. Even if you weekend camp with an empty Oliver you may still be really pushing the limits of your cargo capacity when it comes to insurance consequences IF something goes wrong. We presently tow with a one ton diesel and enjoy the mpgs, power, diesel engine brake and especially the total comfort level. Don’t let the tail wag the dog. 😊 Patriot 🇺🇸

ScubaRx has napalm!

Ours does fit in the back of our short bed truck on an angle but most often (because the truck is loaded) we just set it on the floor along the aisle inside the camper.

Thanks for the link! Yea, I don't think the awning would support any weight without poles, from what we saw at the factory. Just looking at various options. I'm thinking the Clam might fit strapped to the top of the rear bumper, but I'll need to wait until March to find out. Gonna be a looooong winter's wait!

https://shop.quicksetshelters.com/escape-sky-screen-tent.html It’s mostly screen.

Great info! Was the screen ceiling vented or was it entirely screen? Probably not near as durable and no rain protection.

We have the 12.5 by 12.5 pavilion clam and love it. It has been through several down pours and not allowed any rain inside. As noted my biggest complaint is it can get warm, but that has not been too big of an issue even in 90+ degree heat.

I’m going to say maybe on the top rain-flap. Last weekend I went shopping and bought a second clam brand screen tent. We already have a Pavilion model. It’s huge and not all that convenient to set up, move, or store. Super nice if we stay someplace for a week or so. It has room for the picnic table, a couple of chairs, and keeps the dogs confined. The rain panels are built in (they roll down and Velcro on place) with the Pavilion model. With the latest purchase I went with their Traveler model, their smallest screen tent. It’s 20# and I’ve read it’ll fit in the Oliver’s closet. I have to tie the Pavilion to the roof of our Land Cruiser. The Traveler is offered in two colors, brown or green. While trying to determine if there were any other differences I studied the boxes closely. The photo on the brown tent’s box clearly showed a rain flap, the green one clearly did not. I did not study the tents themselves, only the photos on the boxes. I vaguely remember this also being true a few years ago when shopping for our original Clam screen tent. The brown ones had rain flaps, the green ones did not. Early in this thread others commented about heat inside a Clam screen tent being a problem. I agree with that. It can get hot. When I was looking at Clam tents last week the retailer had a new model demo Clam tent set up with a screen ceiling. Not sure about the durability, but it sure was bright and cool inside with the screen ceiling. I think it’s a good idea. It was a medium sized version, so not what I was looking for. hth, Ken

We rarely use our side panels but they are quite handy if it’s raining, colder weather or if you just want some privacy. They are super easy to just velcro on.

Interesting in that I fly fish each summer for two months in the Rocky Mountain West. I have never had an issue with the water heater firing up and my camp sites are virtually always at or above 6,500 feet and have been as high as 11,500 feet. One "issue" that I did have early on was an accumulation of "stuff" in the burner area that was caused by paint, rust, dirt ("stuff") falling down the vent/exhaust pipe and "shorting" the burner sensor. I always carry a small can of compressed air for the purpose of blowing out this area. Bill

New here so please bear with. Wife and I were camping less than 2 hours from Oliver's factory last Oct. . We had just seen a gentleman camping in an Elite, hull #819. So we called and asked to take a factory tour. Needless to say, we are now in line to get our Elite II in July '22 . We have an appointment to visit in Jan. to spend more time in a showroom model to make final option choices. We have been camping for the last 2 years from our CanAm Spyder motorcycles pulling a Leesure-Lite popup and a modified RT-622 CanAm trailer which we added 200 watts of solar to for power. That allowed us to use a 12v fridge/freezer and a 500 watt LiPO4 solar gen. to run my CPAP and all our electronics. That said, I researched equipment, and followed many forums for almost 3 years to get the most efficient and lightest weight items I could find, and afford. Here's where I am struggling. I would like to upgrade to LiPO4 and solar system in the Elite II, but their options don't seem quite right. Watts of solar to ah of battery storage should be at least two to one, not every day is a sunny day. In other words, their 340 watts solar and 630 AH battery is almost backwards. Also, as much as I would like to have enough battery capacity to run the air conditioner I would rather have a 12v unit, like the Dometic RTX 2000, to be more efficient. The idea of trying to collect enough sun with only 340 watts to replenish the power used on the AC unit and also the loss from converting from DC to AC to run it has me a bit nervous. I am familiar with the brand "Zamp" they have some good products however when trying to get all the power you can from an under sized solar array a MPPT charge controller would be ideal. Again, coming from camping off motorcycles where weight is a major factor, having to step up to 30# LP tanks is hard for me. Unfortunately, with an absorption style fridge, even if you can run it from the onboard electrical system, you will deplete your batteries too fast unless you are on shore power. So, for long term boondocking LP is really the only option. Finding a compressor style fridge would be ideal. Their composting toilet seems ideal for us who like to boondock a lot. I just wish that option included a conversion of the black tank to grey water storage. Sorry if I seem to be only focused on my perceived short comings of what I think is a GREAT camper, or we wouldn't have put down a deposit for one. I have spent a lot of time reading the Mods section of the forum here and I find many are converting stock items to what I have talked about here. Even switching to lithium, it sounds as if you lose the ability to charge while towing unless the new owner installs a DC to DC charger on their own, maybe I missed something. I hope I don't come across as a "Debbie downer" when I say it seems like I will be removing A LOT of $ items to modify to above ideas to get it "just right" for us, as soon as we bring it home from the factory.

Rfer800, I agree about the solar/ battery equation being backwards, but a generator solves that problem for those grey days when the solar panels are just idling…. and you will definitely want to be able to run the air conditioning anyway on blistering hot days. I do not suggest running it often off the batteries though. The factory lithium packages are a work in progress. However, with your technical abilities, installing a Redarc charger would be quite simple, and that will give you 11 amps hour after hour without even touching the tow vehicle wiring. If you were amenable to modifying the truck also, and beefing up the cable size in truck and trailer, you can triple that rate. I don’t really think it should affect your decision, just consider it a challenge. John Davies Spokane WA

Cinnamon Sugar Donuts We only make these while camping!! Special treat! I buy the Pillsbury biscuits, poke a hole in the center and fry in oil. We then shake them in a brown paper bag with cinnamon sugar. So easy. Warm donuts—everyone loves them!