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The material on top of the wheel well is fiberglass reinforced with the honeycomb material that Oliver typically uses. The honeycomb material is saturated with resin. The white plastic material is the typical Starboard marine material that Oliver uses everywhere for mounting purposes. The white material that I use is vinyl trim board material available at Lowe’s or Home Depot. I believe that Oliver, at least everything that I have seen, is glued (epoxied) in place. All of the mounting boards that I have installed are epoxied in place. I originally used plywood to mount the solar equipment to but later changed to the vinyl boards. I personally wouldn’t use plywood or other wood for mounting in the Oliver. Keep in mind that any condensation that forms in the walls (and it does in the winter) will run down into the basement area and eventually either will evaporate or run out of the scuppers underneath. You can see the honeycomb material in the upper part of the picture. My solar installation probably looks different than other 2017 or earlier models. During the 2017 model year Oliver was in the process of changing the solar equipment from Blue Sky to Zamp. I ordered my trailer without any solar equipment and added it later. Scubarx (Steve) spec’d out the previously used Blue Sky equipment which I ordered and we installed/wired it all in his driveway. I wanted the Blue Sky equipment because the controller is fully programmable whereas the Zamp controller is not, and the Blue Sky controller is MPPT vs RMS technology of the Zamp system. I then took the trailer to the Oliver factory and they installed the panels. I later remounted the controller, master switch, and circuit breaker on the vinyl board. The entire system has worked absolutely flawlessly for seven years.

I see that @mountainoliver is a lot faster than I am so there is a lot of duplication in my response. I follow Oliver’s lead for hardware mounting, such as the water pump and or accumulator tank. Although Oliver uses a composite material that is available in larger sheets, I usually use big box stores line of PVC lumber. You can choose from a wide variety of dimensional PVC lumber and put 2 different pieces side by side as needed. After I have decided what size boards I need for the equipment to be mounted, I will determine the location for mounting. Using the top of the wheel well as an example, I will draw an outline of the mounting board on the Reflectix insulation and remove the Reflectix by cutting and scraping to provide a clean surface for J-B Weld epoxy. I like the 10 oz. size, it’s cheaper and stores pretty well. I will roughen the side of the PVC lumber that will be epoxied down, hoping to create better adhesion. I add some weight to the top and let the epoxy cure. Flat surfaces like the top of the wheel well is pretty easy, whereas vertical surfaces are more difficult. Mossey

Having pulled an 8’ 6” wide Airstream across the Columbia River via the 9’ 4.75” wide lanes of the Hood River bridge, a trailer that size is something I don’t ever want to own again. The pucker factor of the experience is one I don’t want to re-experience. Even my 9’ 6” wide barn doors were enough to terrify me when there was snow on the ground. All that said, a slightly larger Oliver would be appealing. Something roughly 7’ 6” wide, and 25’ long. I don’t need a dry bath, but would like a bit more storage, a longer bunk, and most of all, a wider aisle.

Wow, thanks for reposting that video! It sure brings back memories. We had been “shopping” for campers off and on for years but a long story short, one evening I googled “large molded fiberglass camper” and this video popped up. I looked at it and called my wife in to look at the video and we both said this is the trailer, this is it! We called Oliver and set up an appointment to go see one and to come to the factory for a tour. The rest is history. One of the best decisions we’ve ever made.

This is why I did not recognize the wiring in your earlier photo. Also, you have your inverter in this compartment and mine was installed by OTT under the rear side of the dinette. @Ronbrink Unless you purchased yours new, somebody must have added that galvanized threaded pipe mount! I can't imagine a purpose for such a large ugly mount in that location. Glue or tape everything possible, stay away from penetrating the hulls, except if you need to run wires. @mountainoliver has an excellent example and description here! I installed the standard PI EMS (that did not come on older hulls) under the dinette, no mounting plate, laying on the insulation using only carpet tape to seat it. The heavy cables also hold it down and it is a large sealed box having its own base (I have a thread on this install).

In that vintage of Oliver - most (if not all) were glued. Bill

On our last day, we went back to Wikieup to drive up a very special road. Off US-93 head west on Chicken Springs Rd. We don't drive endless miles of dirt much anymore, after dozens of dirt bike outings over the many years we've had our Arizona home. We drove up about 4 miles to take pics, collect a few rocks, "you got some splainin' to do, Lucy!" The road is a well maintained Mohave County road, 4x4 unnecessary, but airing down for the washboards would be a good idea. A ways up and off this road to the south you can reach Alamo Lake too, the back way behind the Arrastra Mountain Wilderness. I read about this route in, "the Back Roads ARIZONA, 40 scenic trips." Believe it or not, when you hit paved roads again it will be on I-40, way south of Kingman, where the Interstate turns again west towards Topock, AZ! From the book, "The Joshua tree is the emblem of the Mohave Desert just as the giant saguaro is the emblem of the Sonoran Desert. As you drive over the mountain, you'll see both saguaros and Joshua trees--the two deserts are overlapping." Just 3 miles up this road, we did see one big Joshua tree. It looked lost by itself on the side of the road! Burro Creek has 100s of saguaros and we saw 100s more driving home until we hit elevation, the climb up to Prescott (saguaros flourish at 2000 ft +/-). After enjoying this area so much, and being so close to home, we will get here again and hope to drive the distance (must install an onboard compressor)! Any of you getting bored of Quartzsite? Check-out Alamo Lake! It's under 2 hours, take I-10E for a short to US-60E to Salome, turn left at Wenden, AZ and straight north to the lake. Elevation there is only 1200' so it should be near as warm as the Q. It appears that campsites are available: Alamo Lake State Park | Arizona (azstateparks.com)

Our Oliver is older, and I believe yours might be too, since you mentioned Blue Sky equipment. I do not recognize the picture @mountainoliver showed, meaning hull 113 does not have such wiring. Hard to say since neither of you have a signature line with hull numbers. I added two pics, the first to see overall location under the streetside bed, and then look at the close-up and you will see the black wire I disconnected hanging loose. Afterwards I just taped it and laid it down below. it's the only black wire without the big yellow fuses (for the stabilizer jacks). First check to read 12VDC on the black at the trailer plug. Then disconnect this wire, test voltage again. You should read an open circuit, meaning zero volts. This will ensure you pulled the right wire.

The tow vehicle charge wire (the black wire) is attached to an automatic reset circuit breaker. This circuit breaker is located under the pantry side bed close to the battery box. At least that’s where it’s located on my 2017 hull 208. Just remove the black wire and insulate the ring terminal. I used heat shrink to insulate it. Double check that this is correct by checking for voltage at the trailer plug. Checking the correct terminal on the plug there should not be any voltage after you have disconnected the wire from the circuit breaker. Caution: do not remove the lavender or purple wire from the circuit breaker. That wire supplies voltage to the brakes through the emergency disconnect switch located at the tongue. Don’t be tempted to move the purple wire to the other terminal, you don’t want emergency brake power going through a circuit breaker!

UPDATE: So ... I pulled the trigger today - ordered (2) Epoch 12v 300Ah batteries ... scheduled to ship on 2/15 ... all in, including PA state sales tax and shipping came to $2206 ... confirmed my current PD PD4045 Power Control Center is Li capable (will need to flip the switch), my BlueSky solar with IPN remote will work fine as it can be reconfigured for the Li (confirmed all the necessary settings) ... still need to determine the best way to disable the Tow Vehicle charging - hoping there's a fuse somewhere that'll take care of it. Rivernerd mentioned a 3 KW inverter/charger - that would be nice but the trailer already has a Cotek 2000 watt inverter that I think will be sufficient (no need to spend the additional $) I'll return here in late Feb to provide and update on progress and outcomes ... thanks, everyone, for your thoughts, insights, and advice. Talk soon ...

It's all trade-offs. We had a big fifth wheel. Living room recliners, big dry bath and shower, etc., etc. It's was nice, especially on rainy days or when one of us was sick. And we could entertain friends inside. But we didn't have as many choices for campsites as we do with the Ollie and towing mileage was about 20-25% less. When we purchased Eggcelsior we were planning on multi-month trips, which we thought it would be ideal for. Circumstances have ruled that out for now but, two seasons in, our Ollie has worked for us anyway because we can fit it into campsites that were out of the question with the fifth wheel. (And that's just the physical footprint advantage. The real game changer has been the solar and lithium package.)

I just found THIS link in my old Oliver files. It just might give you even more info about your baby when it was new! Bill But wait - there's more to include that video I thought was lost. Find it HERE

Perhaps a bit more to your point though - There have been several threads here on the Forum related to the various types of material that have been used for mounting various items. These range from marine grade plywood to plastic cutting boards to various poly type construction materials. I think that both Mossemi and ScubaRx have some experience along these lines - a PM to each might get you a direction you can use. Bill p.s. As far as I know - the material under that insulation would simply be the inside of the hull. I'd be very careful putting screws through it because it is highly likely that your tires are under there.

I too was not happy with the "wet bath". It was probably Anita, but early on someone mentioned to me just how "expensive" RV real estate is. They went on to explain by asking me just how much actual time I spent in the bath each day versus virtually any other part of the trailer. Good point I thought and then they mentioned the virtual "automatic cleaning" of the bath that occurs each time I used it for a shower. As it turns out - I was concerned over basically nothing - it really isn't any big deal and certainly I do use the other real estate more than I would use that same square footage in a dry bath. Another related thought - Oliver could (fairly easily) actually make a dry bath in the Elite II. Simply eliminate the closet and then extend the bath area into that "old" closet area - easy. I'm not giving up that closet space though! Bill

We will be gathering December 9-11, 2024 in Natchitoches Louisiana at Grand Ecore RV Park. It is during the "Festival of Lights" season. Last years inaugural event was very nice with various trailers attending from Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and one from Canada. Attendees picked so many pecans someone said it could be called "PecanKnot" We visited the 33 block historic district of Natchitoches which was founded in 1714 and has been designated a National Historic Landmark by the U.S. Department of the Interior, featuring many shops, restaurants, museums, the highlight is the Kaffie Frederick hardware store founded in 1863. Future updates will be provided. Many thanks to Jon Vermilye for taking over the Rally Map. https://grandecorervpark.com/ https://www.natchitoches.com/

My bank account agrees with this assessment.

I'm a big fan of the BuiltRight gear. I've only used the dash mount system and have never tried what you're looking at but if you have ANY question - give them a call. Chances are you will get the owner of BuiltRight and if he doesn't have something to take care of what you need, he will either point you in the right direction or (maybe) offer to make it for you. Good luck! Bill

For those lines I do exactly the thing that I do for the other lines that have faucets (i.e. the kitchen and the bath) - I let the water pump simply pump the anti-freeze from the winterization port through the water pump to the outside faucet (both hot and cold water lines) until I see the pink stuff coming from the shower head. Bill

Since 2022 Oliver has offered the Lithium Platinum Package, which provides 630 Ah of LiFePO4 battery capacity. Some who regularly post on this forum have made that choice, and seem happy with it. In your shoes, I would also choose to spend the extra $200 to install 600 Ah of LiFePO4 battery capacity. I would also install a compatible 3KW inverter/charger.

With your longer hose, you'll need to position the shower head where you want it, I purchased this item, not for dishes, but first for showers: JONKEAN Chrome Handheld Shower Head Holder with 2 Hanger Hooks, Strong Adhesive Shower Head Holder, Adjustable Shower Wand Holder Wall Mount, Bathroom Waterproof Shower Handle Holder No Drill Need - Amazon.com The white plastic shower wand holder slides up and off of a clear flat mount, so when towing or not using it comes off and fits nicely in the shower opening. It's available as a 2-pack, so the second mount can be positioned elsewhere, like attached to camping stations as shown above. I will put my 2nd mount lower to rinse feet, our dog, maybe a large grill pan, though we wash most dishes inside. The second item is a suction cup version which should work well on polished fiberglass: OUO Suction Cup Shower Head Holder Handheld Showerhead Bracket Adjustable Shower Holder, Removable Handheld Showerhead & Wall Mounted Suction Bracket - Amazon.com

Resurrect indeed, your bed liner, slide and cap are great additions! I carry two Wavian NATO Jerrycans stowed in front of each wheel well; one with spare TV fuel (E85), the other non-ethanol fuel for the gennys (can be used for the TV in a pinch, but more-so for my two duel fuel generators when propane is not the best for given situations). No slide, but note the loft for ample stowage. A portable 100Ah power station is staged behind the driver-side wheel well for use with a Dometic dual zone unit. It is charged via a 200W solar array atop the bed cap. A folding winch hoist is staged behind the passenger-side wheel well for use in handling heavy cargo, as well as the OTT’s 30# propane tanks.

If you know Anita in the Oliver Sales office then she can (probably) give you a bunch more detail than I can give here. I fairly sure that your Ollie was built for a guy located in Greer, SC. His job had something to do with "fracking" for oil in PA and maybe even NY and since he spent a fair amount of time in these locations during the winter he wanted the tank heaters. Since he used the Oliver for its intended purpose, he found out that when it got cold and he could use those tank heaters, he was forced to stay inside the camper for extended periods of time (hard to be outside with all the cold and snow). So, even though he still highly praised his Oliver, he decided to sell it in order to have more interior room during those periods of confinement. I'm assuming that the gas stove you refer to has to do with its orientation - the lift up shield and the burners are straight in front of you as opposed to the shield "protecting" the curbside bed and having to reach across the front burner to get to the rear burner. This was the original orientation (and what I have on my #117) but given the number of owners that were asking for the cooktop to be turned, Oliver made this "turned" stove the standard. When I was looking at purchasing an Oliver, it was Windcrasher that had the only video available on YouTube. I must have watched that lone video 75 times during the production of Twist - no, there was not such thing as the Oliver University either at that time. He had posted a few other vids about his Oliver, his Travato van, and his fancy tugboat looking boat that he was having built. But, shortly after he sold his Oliver the videos on YouTube disappeared. A quick Google search of his "old" blog and video name turned up THIS review of camper vans he saw at the 2014 Hershey RV show. Bill

Yes, that will be a good question. Harbor Freight has a very similar step ladder that specifically says Not for Outdoor Use. I didn't find any similar disclaimer on this one. The feet are pretty narrow, though. I did take it out onto my soggy lawn today and it didn't sink in. HD also sells a steel version, with more reinforcement and bigger feet for the same price, but it's 10 pounds heavier and I'm trying to put my gear on a diet.

My bride and I had the opportunity to attend the Charlotte, NC 2024 RV show. Bumgarner Camping Center based in Lenoir, North Carolina had two 2024 Legacy Elite lls on site. It was really nice to see and talk with Shannon Bumgarner, owner of Bumgarner Camping Center and OTT Sales and Service Director Rodney Lomax. There was a really large crowd in attendance and a lot of people checking out the Olivers. There was not another camper that we had any interest in. So glad we have our Oliver.😊 https://olivertraveltrailers.com/events/charlotte-nc-rv-show/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA8NKtBhBtEiwAq5aX2OzzjFR7exvNfjhQVdyiXRKuwXvwV5RBk6Z5DOXEW4PEarfBrcvl5hoCWyEQAvD_BwE A few photos of the Oliver trailers, Rodney, my bride and co pilot Kathy and me. We had a really nice time. A random pic of the Lithionics NeverDie battery configuration.

I know that there have been "on and off" discussions at the Factory about having Olivers available for rent in situations such as you are describing. However, to my knowledge, Oliver has never followed through on this idea. Probably the fact that they are/were selling (fairly quickly) all of the units that they could produce. Having said this - now just might be a great time for you (or anyone else in a similar position) to suggest this to the folks at Oliver. Ya never know! Bill

The dry-bath would be incentive to get into a larger Oliver - but we wouldn't be interested in a 30-footer. We had a 31' AS and although comfortable inside, too limiting for our particular camping style. OTT would get our attention If they offered a dry bath 27' - because any larger of a rig wouldn't fit in the Man Cave... HA! Those "Plugs" that OTT uses to form the hulls are not a cheap date, just like @topgun2 mentioned. Offering a slightly larger dry-bath rig with other amenities would definitely worm OTT into Airstream market space - 100% concur w/ @HDRider's comment.

Amen brother

You made my day (almost) - I just knew that there must have been SOMETHING I remembered from Geometry class.😁

As Ollie-Haus implied, the "future use" would be addition of a DC/DC charger, which enables you to take advantage of the otherwise wasted power spun off by your tow vehicle alternator. With a DC/DC charger, you eliminate the risk that you will burn out the tow vehicle alternator (which can happen with LiFePO4 batteries, because they can pull so much power).

I personally like the simplicity of the single battery option. The odds of a single battery failure in a multiple lithium system seems unlikely. If you do something wrong that will destroy a battery, both will be effected the same. Besides as you said, the generator is a satisfactory backup. I like simple when it's possible.

Now it's time for true confessions, dang it. On the way to Lake Guntersville for the 2022 OTTO's rally, we stopped for groceries about 30 minutes from the campground. While Krunch went shopping I walked around the Ollie checking tire temperatures and the Andersen WD hitch chains and noticed that the 7 pin connector was laying on the ground. Apparently I hadn't plugged the connector in properly when hooking up the Ollie that morning. The cord had fallen out and the outer sheathing as well as the sheathing for 6 of the 7 wires inside had worn down to bare copper. We proceeded to the campground after a tape repair job on the wires and cable. I reached out to the Oliver Service Department while at the rally and they had service personnel scheduled to be on site and they were able to deliver a new cable to me. I did another temporary field repair to hold me over until I reached home. I added an outdoor rated junction box attached to the frame in the propane box and made a splice repair there, so that is where I added this toggle switch. Mossey

So here’s the finished product, box, sprayed with Line-X, a Leer cap and cargo glide slide! 🙂 Now, what are you all using for storage on the sides of your slide, the gaps in front and behind the wheel wells?

The Lithionics batteries Oliver installs have either internal self-heaters, or an external heating mat, to keep the batteries above freezing. AGM/lead acid batteries don't need this protection. It appears that the Epoch 460Ah battery has an internal heater, which makes it a solid value.

Keep in mind that if one big battery fails you’ll be out of luck. If one or even two batteries in a three battery system fails, you can still camp with a single battery, something to consider. Also, I disconnected the charge line from my tow vehicle so have never charged the batteries while driving. Another thing I didn’t mention before is that lithium batteries like to be in a comfortable temperature range. The Battle Born batteries will work down to the low 30’s or upper 20’s degrees F and into something around 100 or so. Check out their specs. However at the extremes they will not charge. Again check out their specifications. I insulated the battery compartment door with 1/2 inch closed cell foam. Typically the battery compartment temperature is very close to the basement temperature.

My original battery setup was four 6 volt batteries. When I changed my batteries to 3 Battle Born 12 volt batteries several years ago, I basically connected the batteries in parallel in order to maintain 12 volts and provide 300 amps. I did have to make two new jumper cables between batteries using 4/0 welding cable. I also used the existing 4/0 Oliver installed cable that runs between the batteries and inside the camper. I also moved the #6 cables from the batteries to inside the camper to clean up the battery box, but this is not at all necessary for changing from lead acid batteries to lithium batteries. The only other change required (besides the previously mentioned Blue Sky setup) is to make sure the PD 4045 (shore power) charger is either switched to the lithium setting or as I had to do, replaced with a charger module that is lithium capable. My setup has been working flawlessly for about four years. I almost never turn on the PD4045 charger and depend on the solar setup to keep the batteries charged. We have a compressor type fridge which is used 24/7 and the batteries are able to keep up just fine. We are careful with power consumption but use what we need. Typically when boondocking we still make coffee every morning, cook breakfast in an electric frying pan, my wife dries her hair in the morning, we watch tv at night, occasionally use the microwave, charge cell phones and laptops occasionally, and in the winter the furnace is used. Again, we are careful with our power consumption so the above list of appliances used varies greatly based on current conditions and predicted conditions. Typically while traveling in the winter in the south west the batteries are fully charged by between noon and one o’clock. I carry a 100 watt folding solar panel and a small propane powered generator just in case and have used these once or twice due to extended overcast days.

We own lien free “XPLOR” Hull# 634 and our TV. With over 20k miles we have yet to see another TT that would serve our traveling needs better than our Oliver. Per OTT Sales and Service Manager Rodney Lomax “Everything you need and nothing you don’t”. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸😊 @thirddoor I hope you can find a well maintained gently used Oliver on your time line. 👍🏻

One of the reasons we got rid of our fifth wheel and bought the Ollie.

There's much to like about our current trailer, but for all-around usefulness, the Olly is really hard to beat!

My experience is very similar to @jd1923 and @Ollie-Haus. There is just something about trying out all the wrong stuff before finding the right stuff. Sure makes you appreciate how amazing the OTT is.

jd1923: It sounds like you found the vent in the bathroom under the toilet paper holder, which is good. In my 2018 Oliver Elite II, we had a similiar low amount of air coming out of the vent covers. After talking to Oliver service, we ended up temporarily popping off the vent covers at each vent and removing the plastic diverters behind the cover and then reinstalled the vent cover back on. These plastic diverters were restricting the air flow. You might want to considering removing the plastic diveters, if they are still installed, as their removal greatly improved our air flow. Also, place you hand in front of the bathroom vent to feel if you are getting air coming out of that vent. If you have no air flow at the bathroom vent. (I have seen on this forum where some people have found that the vent piping was not connected to the vent outlet.) If this is the case, you can remove the front bottle plate (4 screws) in front of the bathroom vanity so you can reconnect the vent piping to the vent cover.

My experience with this. When I went to order a 2024 model in January, my info was given to the dealer in my network. After speaking with dealer, I decided to order and pickup 'Direct' through Oliver. I really didn't want a 3rd party (dealer) to communicate with. I wanted the whole Oliver experience, from communicating with the Oliver Team, driving to TN, factory tour, and staying @ Camp Oliver for any post sales issues. I did this with our Escape in Canada and liked the process. Thanks Oliver for not pushing me to order from a dealer.

The Line-X is probably not necessary with the bed slide and anyway, it further reduces your cargo capacity. The cap and the bed-slide will take about 5-6 hundred pounds of it anyway but they both are well worth the reduction, in view of security and ease of access to the contents. This will be a sweet set-up for you.

I doubt - very seriously - that it is Camping World. Bill

I've said this before in another post... but at the risk of repeating myself again... Oliver is not a "club" or like most of us, a bunch of retired people who have already accumulated enough wealth to sit back and be philosophical about how we would do it. It's a business that has several hundred employees who come in everyday to the Oliver factory trying to earn enough money to get to the place most of us owners enjoy right now. Warranty work (every dime of it) is anything that fails or wasn't done right the first time... it costs the factory money and is a cash drain. Service work could and probably is somewhat profitable and self sustaining part of the Oliver business, but the real cash cow that the owners and every employee counts on (remember they have their own life dreams too) depends on selling new Olivers. With hull numbers around the 1500 mark they have likely picked the low hanging fruit. Now they need to dig deeper into the existing marketplace to fulfill the burden and obligation to pay for tools, equipment, buildings, benefits, healthcare, wages and everything else that those several hundred people working there are depending on so they can make their house payments, buy groceries and maybe even someday own and Oliver and travel around the country seeing and doing everything we all are doing right now. Growing the business by selling new product doesn't mean forgetting the customers that have already purchased Olivers, rather it is doing both in a way that is fulfills everyones goals. It's not easy. Sometimes feels like a balancing act. There will be the occasional mistake... but I'm counting on the Oliver management to provide that "North Star" to keep the companies core moving in the right direction. We were just recently in the extreme north west and several times had conversations with folks who might have been prospective buyers... they just rolled their eyes when I said you could only buy and pick them up at the factory in Tennessee. All of us need to remember that if we want an experienced service team that is equally invested in our Oliver the factory where they are built needs to survive and grow. Otherwise, "who ya gonna call"?

Here’s a couple of pictures of the bikes loaded

The front tires are removed, forks turned sideways. The bikes are beaters, so being lashed in fine.. not worried about scratches, just don’t want shifting gear in transit. The generator is easily accessed with the bikes and one chair removed, which would most likely be the case if I need it anyway, as we’d have camp set up. I can crawl up in there and haul it out without issue. We plan on using the generator far less than we did with our Casita and it’s single group 27 battery. I have the option to put the generator behind the cooler where it would be easy to rig up a way to slide it in and out and rework the stowing of other gear. As I said, this winter will be a trial run for us on many levels.. next summer will be one full of design, modification, and tweaking of the truck and new camper.

You are amazing!!! We don't don't have plans, as of yet, to put a cap on our pickup bed; hoping our 1up rack will work with a dual hitch adapter and we can have a tonneau cover. Will know in a month or so (delivery December 7). If the bike rack doesn't work out, a storage solution, such as yours would make a great Winter project!

This is why good threads never die. Great layout and a tremendous example of a customizable approach to storage.

You're going to love Steve's slider - it's really something.

Nan I certainly understand getting a cargo slide; in fact, I intend to get one for my new truck. Just want to mention the 2015 Tundra has carpet and pet screen windows in case you want to carry your dogs in the back. The cargo slide will create a new challenge for transporting your big dogs in the bed. Rather than crawl around in the bed, I have used a "pole" to move cargo toward me. And, when I do need to get into the bed, the carpet makes it easy on the knees. Once again, I fully appreciate the cargo slide, just wanted to provide additional thinking. Attached is a picture of the carpeted bed and "pole".