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The Andersen ramps are great. But - you can certainly make the Andersen "Blocks" a bunch cheaper. Find or buy a treated 6x6 piece of lumber. Cut into a couple of pieces of between 10 and 11 inches. If you want to get fancy you can put a handle on them and give them a coat or two of sealer. Then, unlike the Andersen blocks you can use these on end for 10 to 11 inches (note that this is about the distance to the bottom of the jacks on level ground minus an inch or two) or you can lay these on their side for a 5 to 6 inch height. Keep your eye out for someone building a new house and/or deck. Many time this is the place where you can ask for "cut-offs" that are just the right size for your purpose. Bill p.s. another "benefit" is that if you ever drive off without them you don't have to beat yourself up over the cost of getting new ones.😃

The Oliver Elite and Oliver Elite II trailers are being shown at the Boston RV Camping show, for the first time, this weekend at the Boston Convention Center. There was a lot of Ollie interest by people at the show. Scott Oliver was at the event along with the Tim of Tim's RV the Massachusetts sales dealer.

Before you call, your best and quickest way to get an answer from Oliver is to submit a ticket at: support@olivertraveltrailers.com You will get an immediate email back with a ticket #, followed by a response. We have purchased several items through Oliver and pricing wasn't out of line.

Jason, I think the problem with covering them is, when you’re driving down the road these scuppers also cause a venturi effect, which actually draws air/moisture out from between the Hulls.

I don't like crowds or even most of my family either!🤪

I realized Chris had taken a picture of the lone Joshua tree, looking down at Wikieup and the Sonoran Desert below. He somehow drifted away from his family on the other side of the range in the Mohave!

We attended the Charlotte RV show today and specifically asked the owner of Bumgarner RV who is now selling and servicing Olivers if they would accept a trade in on a new Oliver? Shannon Bumgarner the owner said yes that he would accept a trade in on a new Oliver. We have absolutely have no interest in selling or trading our Oliver. I just thought it was interesting to know that our local Oliver dealer will take a trade in.

This was exactly what went through my mind before buying the Oliver. My wife and I went back and forth on it for a month before deciding that we just don't spend that much time in the bathroom. Sure, a dry bath, and one I can actually stand up in, would be great, but the differences in quality between the Oliver and the only other contender out there in my opinion, the AS, was like night and day. The AS I was looking at was the 27-foot Globetrotter. It marked all the items on the list, but the build quality was suspect and the hull, although pretty, seemed like something out of nightmares for those parked under tree limbs and suffering the occasional hailstorm. I honestly think the Oliver already is in Airstream territory, if not in fact beyond it. A 27-foot dry bath Oliver would be so far beyond AS, they couldn't catch up.

My bride and I had the opportunity to attend the Charlotte, NC 2024 RV show. Bumgarner Camping Center based in Lenoir, North Carolina had two 2024 Legacy Elite lls on site. It was really nice to see and talk with Shannon Bumgarner, owner of Bumgarner Camping Center and OTT Sales and Service Director Rodney Lomax. There was a really large crowd in attendance and a lot of people checking out the Olivers. There was not another camper that we had any interest in. So glad we have our Oliver.😊 https://olivertraveltrailers.com/events/charlotte-nc-rv-show/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA8NKtBhBtEiwAq5aX2OzzjFR7exvNfjhQVdyiXRKuwXvwV5RBk6Z5DOXEW4PEarfBrcvl5hoCWyEQAvD_BwE A few photos of the Oliver trailers, Rodney, my bride and co pilot Kathy and me. We had a really nice time. A random pic of the Lithionics NeverDie battery configuration.

Yep - this was my first thought too. However, only the Elite I's had what was known as the "stripper pole". Bill

We have a pretty big problem with winter condensation with humidity often in the high 80s and 90s. We usually do not get below freezing much (except for last week). We crack the bathroom fan open, and turn on the Maxair to it's lowest setting. We also keep the heater around 68 during the day and 60 at night. We do end up wiping the inside window a couple of times a day.

Wincrasher’s video was what turned us to Oliver as well. There wasn’t much out there when we started looking (2015). Looks like he had an influence on a lot of us early owners. Mike

So say we all.

Same. That closet keeps all the clutter out of the living space and the TV. I wouldn't do it any other way.

We have two small electric de-humidifiers we use in Ollie. Condensation will collect between the hulls where the Oliver Sign is located in the overhead storage. Been thinking about installing a 2" vent in each removable bulkhead partitions where the Oliver sign is located along with using a small de-humidfier in that compartment to better help with condensation.

@Steve Morris Yes, Triolgy is about 10 mins from Jill and me. I haven't eaten there but have seen it driving down New York ave. It sounds like Blue Springs was packed with manatees with kind of numbers. Currently we're down in the Keys at Curry Hammock SP enjoying some fun in the sun. Take care and safe travels

I too was not happy with the "wet bath". It was probably Anita, but early on someone mentioned to me just how "expensive" RV real estate is. They went on to explain by asking me just how much actual time I spent in the bath each day versus virtually any other part of the trailer. Good point I thought and then they mentioned the virtual "automatic cleaning" of the bath that occurs each time I used it for a shower. As it turns out - I was concerned over basically nothing - it really isn't any big deal and certainly I do use the other real estate more than I would use that same square footage in a dry bath. Another related thought - Oliver could (fairly easily) actually make a dry bath in the Elite II. Simply eliminate the closet and then extend the bath area into that "old" closet area - easy. I'm not giving up that closet space though! Bill

The operative word in the above is "they". If you mean Oliver then the current answer is - NO. There is no change to Oliver's long standing policy regarding used Olivers. If you mean Oliver dealers" then I believe that the answer is - YES. These are independent dealers and if they currently deal in used RV's the I'd suspect that they will deal in used Olivers. And, if this is the case, that just might be another "benefit" to this new program for all of the current owners. This is particularly so for those that find themselves in a situation where they might have to get rid of their Oliver in a hurry and/or those that really have no knowledge of an Oliver but for a number of various reasons find themselves in charge of selling or disposing of the Oliver from an Estate or medical issues or .... Bill

Charley is the "Liver & White" Springer, from Texas Springers English Springer Spaniels in Aubrey, TX | TEXAS SPRINGERS He's going to be 10 years old this summer, and we got him as a pup when we lived in the Austin area (past homes in Georgetown and Lakeway, TX). Honestly, he doesn't care whether Dad does it right or not. Just can't wait to get out, sniff his new surroundings and lay on the camping mat to post guard! Poor guy has gotten older and with a torn left CCL and our new tall mattresses, he now has his own new doggie mattress situated between us on the floor. He whimpers looking up for 5-10 minutes and then lies down for the night. I have no idea how some of you share such little space with your dogs! He's also 65 LBS and were not lifting him anymore! More on our Burro Creek visit when I collect my thoughts and download a few pictures. Thanks to all who commented!

We are pregnant! Due date 3/13. It's a boy. We haven't named him yet. 😉 I'm watching all the parenting videos now. 1) I was surprised to learn the stabilizing jacks aren't recommended for changing a flat, yet no jack is provided. Anyone have jack advice? 2) We went with the composting pooper but no shower curtain. I was surprised to see Oliver recommends covering it with a trash bag while showering to keep it dry. I would think closing the lid would suffice??? 3) We live in FL. Anyone care to share their experience titling their baby in the Sunshine State? (We may try to do it while on the road.) 4) My wife wants to attend the next rally. But we can't commit yet. Too many unknowns.... Is it possible to attend "at the last minute"?

Have you tried removing the offending drawer, and resetting, with @John E Davies instructions? If you've done that, correctly, then you have a different problem. Blum does use some orange covers, but if the slides are Blum, you'll see their stamp somewhere, probably on slides themselves. Do yourself a favor, and do open a ticket, as @John Dorrer suggested, after you've tried removing and reinstallation. We've always received good response to tickets opened. And, gives both you and service documentation trail to follow. I have a love/hate relationship with self closers. When they work, awesome. Definitely not so easy to remove and reinstall as typical drawer slides. Blum is my hardware of choice.

Dennis and Melissa The Anderson link you provided seem a lot of $$$. You really do need to get the blocks to go under the electric jacks so the jacks are not out really long. As topgun2 said you can cut some 2x6 wood for using to go under the wheels to level the trailer when on camp sites that are not level. You will also want to get some wheel chocks. I guess if the $$$ do not bother you then your suggested link items gives you all the items you would need. I have the Proven Lock system to lock up the bull-dog hitch. I recommend it. It cost a little more than what you are proposing but is far more secure. Also, I did get the Oliver shower curtain. Their curtain not only keeps the compost toilet area dry but it can also extend to in front of the door so you can leave the bathroom door open during a shower. I like OTT shower curtain a lot and IMO works better than anything that I could have installed myself. What battery (or solar) package did you decide on? Happy camping. Time will go by fast now that you have ordered.

OMG: We love JB Weld!!!

Service sent me a couple of drawer slides when I had one break several years ago. Easy to replace. The strap method for each bank of drawers solved our drawer-opening-while-driving issue. Mike

Now they do. I have a trailer sitting in my side yard that I haven't been able to get rid of. If I had only waited a little longer. Oh well. Spilled milk gets cleaned up by the cat.

.... mmmm ... stripper pole option? ... was that offered at one time? (sorry, couldn't resist - apologies if anyone's offended)

Yeah, Wow! ... thanks ... great info and background ... and nice to see my Ollie 069 when it was young ... it still looks real nice! ... I'd seen the walkaround video once when I'd bought it from "try2relax" - Randy (2nd owner) ... Wincrasher's blog and video has reminded me of some of the things that Randy (2nd owner had changed ... I'll need to look in more detail as I have some time. Thanks again for the link-up. Cheers, -Dan

Yes, that will be a good question. Harbor Freight has a very similar step ladder that specifically says Not for Outdoor Use. I didn't find any similar disclaimer on this one. The feet are pretty narrow, though. I did take it out onto my soggy lawn today and it didn't sink in. HD also sells a steel version, with more reinforcement and bigger feet for the same price, but it's 10 pounds heavier and I'm trying to put my gear on a diet.

I bought the Oliver new, maybe someone will be able to solve the mystery!

I just found THIS link in my old Oliver files. It just might give you even more info about your baby when it was new! Bill But wait - there's more to include that video I thought was lost. Find it HERE

@Steph and Dud B, I have used that same ladder for a number of years to access my upper kitchen cabinets (I can only reach the bottom row), cleaning ceiling fans, decorating the Christmas tree. It's light, sturdy, and stable, indoors, and doesn't take up a lot of room in my cleaning closet. I liked it so much we bought one for our daughter. Let me know how you like using it outdoors.

Thank you @Jason Fosterfor starting this thread. It prompted me to solve this problem. I ended up getting a tiny little shop blower and a lightweight 3-step step ladder, both from Home Cheapo: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-Ladders-3-Step-Aluminum-Step-Stool-Ladder-250-lbs-Type-I-Duty-Rating-9ft-Reach-Height-GLA-3-2/310833462#overlay https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18V-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Compact-Jobsite-Blower-with-Inflator-Deflator-Nozzle-R86043B/314241140

We will be gathering December 9-11, 2024 in Natchitoches Louisiana at Grand Ecore RV Park. It is during the "Festival of Lights" season. Last years inaugural event was very nice with various trailers attending from Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and one from Canada. Attendees picked so many pecans someone said it could be called "PecanKnot" We visited the 33 block historic district of Natchitoches which was founded in 1714 and has been designated a National Historic Landmark by the U.S. Department of the Interior, featuring many shops, restaurants, museums, the highlight is the Kaffie Frederick hardware store founded in 1863. Future updates will be provided. Many thanks to Jon Vermilye for taking over the Rally Map. https://grandecorervpark.com/ https://www.natchitoches.com/

The wet bath was the thing that kept me walking away from Oliver. We were very close to purchasing an Airstream with a dry bath, but the better quality of the Oliver was worth not getting a dry bath. My thinking is a larger unit would put Oliver squarely in Airstream territory with a much better product.

Truth is, we humans generally find extreme discomfort in change. Big or small, change is a challenge. Let's give the new plan time to grow, and mature. Oliver is no longer the fledgling company we took a big fly on in early 2008. The family management is smart, careful, and I'm sure they've thought this process through, very carefully. I'm rooting for them, and all of us future and current owners who can benefit.

We stayed in Fort Collins in our camper last summer for a Toyota Land Cruiser event. There are boon docking campsites and a few electric sites up and down the Cache la Poudre River. There are YouTube drive-thru videos on-line of every campground along the river to help you pick a site. There are lots of sites up at the Horsetooth reservoir that might fit your needs. We couldn't get one, they were all booked months in advance. A very popular spot. Maybe if you keep looking you'll find a cancelation. In the end we ended up at the Fort Collins KOA. Not my ideal solution, but it was clean and well run. We just needed a spot to park and sleep, so we didn't avail ourselves of any of the park amenities. It was just an expensive spot for us to sleep for a couple of nights.

There is another side to this. Part of the dealer pricing game is driven by the customer desire to "work out a bargain deal". This is only a percentage of buyers, but we all know folks that like to brag about the deal they worked on XYZ. Dealers love this mentality also as they love to play the money game to make a buyer feel like they pulled one over on the dealer, and reeling them into to purchase. It's not all just about pulling the wool over on the customer, but also making them feel they are getting a bargain at that moment and locking in the sale. What I'm saying is there's a percentage of folks that prefer the haggle and wheel and deal process over the fixed price, no haggle method. And dealerships are just used to working this way. I think an interesting characteristic about this topic is that before the dealer option, Oliver sales attracted a certain kind of customer base that made us very relatable. We liked the direct factory purchase arrangement, and for many that was a driving force in our attraction to Oliver. We are the kind of folks that have no interest in the haggle game. We are straight shooters and we perceive Oliver as being very honest, straight shooters as well. Cost is important to us, but value of product and quality of customer experience is more important to us. Buyers that prefer the dealer purchase process and working their deal will choose that route for their own reasons. In many ways it is customer driven.

I attended Daytona Bike week for about 15 years straight and in order to get away from the biker madness I rented (along with another couple of guys) a cabin at Blue Springs. Once the "day trippers" left at dark all that we heard was silence. Really nice place to sit back in one of their rocking chairs on the screened in porch and relax. Besides - the manatees and all of the fish in that short run from the Spring to the river were great to watch. Bill

@Mike and Jill We stopped for brunch at Trilogy Kirchen on the east side of Deland (not the downtown one) on our way to New Smyrna Beach. Wonderful food and service. Were we near you? We went to Blue Springs state Park yesterday with 675 manatee for the day's count. Down from a record 900 some the day before. Then had lunch at Hollerbach Cafe in Sanford afterward.

We entered a campground post but thought we should be in Where's Ollie too! Burro Creek and other Central AZ places to visit! - Campgrounds & Parks - Oliver Owner Forums (olivertraveltrailers.com) One the way home from Burro Creek, our Ollie made a stop in Kirkland, AZ. Had lunch, decent burger and great homemade salad with blue cheese dressing, at the Kirkland Cafe. I Had been there before, about 4 years ago on a motorcycle cruise with our son and Chris really wanted to stop this time for the experience. The place is huge inside, hunting trophies on the walls, a stage and dance floor. First opened in 1923, you can only imagine the grandiose of Arizona when there where copper mines busy everywhere, and much greater population in these backroads areas. Herb and Barbara are the owners, they bought the property in 1991 (the year Chris and I met). It will be our 30th anniversary this year and they will have their 67th this year! Think about this, they married in 1956 when I was 1 year old -OMG! This couple is amazing. Barb served us and cooked our meal. Herb was not in, but I met him last time, and he has the stories. We hung out with and talked to some bikers from the valley and as far as Montana, many beautiful HDs on the lot (should have taken the pic when we got there). They advertise an RV Park too, usually empty, but they'll hook you up, just ask!

Tim - I'm sorry that I don't know of any camping places right near Ft. Collins. But, if you fly fish - try not to miss some fishing on the Cache la Poudre River. Fishing can be "spotty" and it can get crowded on the weekends but a couple of the "feeder" creeks should not be missed. Have fun with the "grand"! Bill

The first night the sun truly lit up the Burro Creek Bridge (Burro Creek Bridge spans farther than most in the Southwest - AZ Wonders). Picture taken is zoomed in from our campsite #6. The next morning you can see the moisture of the creek swirl out of the canyon to form paisley shape clouds surrounding us (sorry no pics of this). The day became cloudy, partially clearing later leading to a most spectacular sunset!

I sat through a RV Electricity presentation by Mike Sokol at the 2024 Florida Super Show last Wednesday. He recommended the Smart Plug and gave it a very positive review. Mossey

Any idea of why the twist lock on your current Furrion isn't working? While the hype on THIS contact cleaner isn't entirely correct, it does help. The cleaner and an old tooth brush gets the job done - especially in those hard to reach places. Since you have said that you don't really plug into shore power very much, I'd give strong consideration to cleaning up what you have - at least if you can correct that twist lock. My plastic ring "broke" (actually I broke it in yet another fit of stupidity 🤪) several years ago and I've not had any problems living without that ring. Good luck! Bill

We did a drive-through at Dead Horse Ranch State Park a few years ago and it looked like a very nice place to camp! Thinking of exploring the Verde Valley and Sedona areas more closely from this campsite (still on our list, though we've been to Sedona and throughout the Verde Valley dozens of times). The park borders north end of Cottonwood, and the Verde River runs through it, while Jerome is a 10-mile 2000 ft climb SW almost to the top of Mingus Mountain. Sedona does not allow dispersed camping anywhere around their beautiful village (must have a Red Rock Pass to even park at many of the trailheads) and this park is truly the best place to visit everywhere from Sedona to Jerome to Camp Verde, including all the ancient Anasazi Indian sites (Tuzigoot and Montezuma Castle and Well). Don't miss Cornville where the Oak Creek snakes through this picturesque valley town. Everywhere so green it's truly an oasis, downstream from the majestic Oak Creek Canyon, Slide Rock State Park and Sedona, just before it merges with the Verde. Another item on our list is to take the restored Verde Railroad from Clarkdale up the Verde Canyon to Perkinsville, AZ. Want a truly cliff-hanging scary drive? Drive the dirt road (FS318) from Perkinsville to Jerome along the northside of Woodchute Mountain (don't take your Ollie)! We did this white-knuckled route once, about 15 years ago but never again! Getting to Perkinsville, to see the headwaters of the Verde River is a drive itself, from either Chino Valley to the west or Williams to the north (easier to get to by rail). We've hit every trail in the area on dirt bikes through the years. Sierra Vista and points SE of Tucson are certainly on our list. That area is about the only part of Arizona we have not explored. Wish we made it a winter trip priority earlier as every winter we head down to "the Valley" and points beyond. However lately, the locals of Central and Northern Arizona will not travel that direction until they get the US border back in control (our family too). SW AZ, from Quartzite to Yuma is OK, but be truly careful, packed and ready, if you venture to SE AZ at this time.

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If it’s just leaves and/or twigs, the underside of the awning can be bumped from top to bottom to bounce them downslope and off. However, in regards to the other stuff, i.e. sap, pollen, insect/bird droppings, etc., that is my concern and reason why I try to avoid camping under trees. I use Google Earth in selecting available campsites to help evaluate the tree situation, among other things, but if tree cover cannot be avoided then I make it a practice to not deploy the awning. That said, I occasionally deploy the awning when washing the Oliver to cleanse it of dust and dirt that may have accumulated.

How so? What was the difference between your previous awnings and the one you have now that makes the previous ones so much easier to clean? Bill

That is an important consideration, definitely. In this case I am not concerned since the drawer sides and bottoms are both made from wood. If they were different materials, then definitely do not glue. I think this is one of those situations where you have to decide whether you want the bottom to bow down and perhaps fall out of a groove, or stay in place and possibly crack. If an owner is concerned, he can Google “floating drawer bottom”, do some reading in the woodworkers forums, and decide for himself. BTW, I live in, and generally camp in, an arid part of the country, so prolonged high humidly or dramatic moisture changes is rarely a worry. And a couple of my drawers are quite heavily loaded, they are not all filled with plastic utensils or lightweight personal items. Thanks very much for the comment. John Davies Spokane WA