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Just a great excuse to extricate ourselves from killer June temps in northern NM - we joined the SKP’s club and are at their rally in Rock Springs, WY. Grilled artichokes, shrimp, and fresh garden salad for chow… Cheers All!

@topgun2 - Hey, Bill; 1. OK - kinda cool story here. We checked into the Rally early on Saturday afternoon and were assigned a temporary site for the evening. High winds kept us inside for the evening, but when we took the Knuckleheads out for an early walk yesterday morning, there was another Oliver in the temp area that arrived after us on Sat. They're Robert and Bonny from WA (winter in AZ), their's is a '15 LE2 - wonderful couple. So we were assigned adjacent sites yesterday for the duration of the rally - total coincidence! 2. So far, we're the only Olivers we've seen here. There's likely north of 500 rigs here. 3. The venue is the Sweetwater/Green River County Fair Grounds/Horse racing track. Very well organized, but tight (can you spell, "s-a-r-d-i-n-e-s") 4. Headed to downtown Rock Springs later this AM - will definitely track down the donut shop! HA! I've been working on D and the boys lately to try and find their "CHILL" space - seems to be working some... Cheers, ALL!

We front loaded the year. We had several summer Indiana State Parks mid-year last year with temps in the mid to high 90's. Never again. Even with the break, we will be over 100 nights with the Colorado, New Mexico, Texas trip, mid-Sept to the end of October. I sure we will have some warm temps as we wonder through the Texas panhandle in mid-Oct on the way to Inks Lake Rally. Otherwise, we are just chilling.

We camped with Robert and Bonny at Quartszite in 2017, along with @ScubaRx the Landrums.

@MAX Burner An excellent idea escaping the heat! The east cost is now under a so called “heat dome” as the media likes to package it. D and the pups look pretty chill and relaxed. Great photos and it sounds like a great time Art! Thanks for sharing the pics especially with old glory flying high! Rally on Brother! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Hello all! Just joined your wonderful forum today. We are a retired couple from Tennessee who are looking forward to owning a Legacy Elite II someday in the near future. So we’re newbie wannabes right now. We made the mistake, I guess, of first looking on line at the Legacy Elite II and now everything else just seems subpar. So, we’re pretty much sold out of the gate on Oliver’s quality and customer satisfaction. We continue to learn every day, mostly from this forum and other research what it’s like to own a travel trailer and why other brands of rv’s should be avoided. Once again, hello and we look forward to getting to know you all.

This last Boondocking Trip to New Mexico started with taking my Telesteps Ladder and cleaning off the Solar Panels, as usual. I snug up ALL the knob screws securing the panels as I clean. I do this every time we leave home in Boulder City, Nevada. The fourth day of camping in the Gila National Forest New Mexico for agates, Nancy was walking along the road, watching for low hanging pine branches. Our usual routine, when on a narrow Forest Service Road. As we soon found an nice campsite, she noticed the Solar Panel on the Driver's side front... was flopping? I stopped and the Knob to secure the Panel... was missing. I snug them up every trip before we leave, and anytime I suspect I need to clean off dust while camped. 😞 How could that happen? This should never happen. I read about someone else on the Oliver Forum who lost a Knob. Well, we did as well thinking that was rather odd. How it backed out... it is a mystery. I always carry a good selection of bolts, nuts, washers, locking washers and nuts. I found TWO bolts in my carton, that had the fine threads, and managed to make a FIX on the spot. I will keep MY replacement. It worked. This post is to alert anyone with Solar Panels to snug these Knobs up, while wiping down the Solar Panel clean. I am detail orientated and so is Nancy. This surprised Nancy and myself. If it happened ONCE to ME... it could happen to anyone. Of course, I have my camera with me all the time. I add them for your entertainment. The best part of this story, there was NO Solar Panel damage, but without the Telestep Ladder, I would have had to stack milk crates onto the tail gate of my F350 to secure the Panel. Be prepared for anything... and sometimes... anything occurs. If you see any Knob Missing... the panel drops several inches downward. The nut with fine threads was still welded and not damaged. Strange things can happen, but this was so odd... I took some photographs to show it did happen and can happen to you. The End.

You guys got me thinking about this. Nice little key rack but for me it was lacking some important criteria. I need a rack that I can reach while standing outside the door. We climb in and out too much already for older bodies! Also wanted a combo key & coat rack, with room for Charley's leash, my long shoehorn, a jacket or two and why not the flashlight! This product turned out great. Five hooks at 15" for just $17 and you can order them in various lengths. It has a flat back, so I ran 3M VHB 4950 the length of it. So strong. We had 3M Command hooks here and there, installed without much thinking to placement, so I just removed all of them. Amazon.com: Vanloory Coat Rack, Heavy Duty Stainless Steel 5 Tri Coat Hook Hanger, Wall Mounted Storage Wall Hook, Rustic Clothes Hook/Key Hook Rail for Bathroom Kitchen Entryway(5 Hook White) : Home & Kitchen

Indeed, but impressed thus far! More energy efficient, competitively priced and much quieter than the Dometic, mine is the 11,000 BTU model. I have read some discussion on Houghton vs Atmos. In watching videos on performance you can make your own judgement on the db levels and energy consumption being reported. Most interest and testing is done running off an inverter.

If you like cool evenings... in the Summer... Bear Trap Ridge Trail could be a good stop. There was another campsite on the west side, but had two trailers camped. Several hundred feet below the road. This campsite is on the East side on the road, as you will see on the Utah DeLorme Atlas scan page 45, A5-A6. We hiked the trail half way and turned around. Someone may want to explore the area. No cost camping! IF you like to explore for unlisted, unknown campsites that MIGHT be in an area... get the DeLorme Atlas for the State. Find one good over night spot, mark it like we do, and then look for the... next. And... next, and... so on. A true adventure into the unknown. If a location is known to everyone... it may be busy. Fine the 'unknown' campsites... you are officially an Off the Grid Boondocker. This campsite I am giving to all of the potential Oliver Boondockers. We rarely give up these sites. Get an Atlas... study it at home and go hunting. Sometimes it works. Sometimes... you are next to a gravel pit. Happy campers are the BEST. Be happy, no matter. YOU have an Oliver.

Sounds like a great trip for late September/early October, but, hope that all is OK during the next 2 1/2 months of being parked. Bill

Parked for the next 2-1/2 months. 96° in Indy today. No longer interested in camping in the heat 🙃 The mountains of Southern Colorado and New Mexico in late September.

While there is a Beartrap overlook on the Blue Ridge Parkway near Canton, NC - I doubt that it is the one you are asking about. I'd guess that the pics are from the Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest. Bill

I have been following their YouTube page for years now. If you are a sheep herder or hunter they may work out fine. I like the wood stoves but after 30 years in Alaska and 17 years in North Idaho, we are looking for warmer weather and not needing a wood stove 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=peak+mountain+camps

We have alternated our 2019 27/28 foot Airstream and the 20 foot 2019 Oliver Elite II for the last several years. Towing either travel trailer is smooth towing 'On the Ball' behind a F350 2016 Ford Diesel. I like the F350 Tow Vehicle best of all four wheeled rolling homes. Towing has been a pleasure, without any issue of sway or weight control. Lengths do matter. There are MORE options for an Oliver Elite II to travel, set up camp, remaining attached to the F350 tow vehicle, while on the ball. Another advantage an Oliver has is the Clearance and Michelin 16 inch tires. I added 3 inch lift and 16 inch wheels and 16 inch Michelins to the Airstream, which was a great advantage to do when purchasing new. The Oliver Elite II has this clearance... standard equipment. Nancy is wiping down the Interior of the Oliver now for dust. The most likely spots are on the floor, on the sides of the hallway carpet. Static Electricity IS your friend with Fiber Glass. She just came in and commented how easily the Oliver interior cooperates for a clean up. Many Oliver owners may not realize how easily the Travel Trailer... travels. It is the 'Go Anywhere Travel Trailer' and wind does not push the Tow Vehicle or Oliver around. We did our Boondocking Camping with the Airstream... with a 23, a 25 and lastly a 27 foot. The 25 foot was our favorite, as the Elite II is our choice, also having Double Axles. Necessary for go anywhere travel and four tires on the road. If a Elite II has a tire failure... the weight on the remaining tire can manage if inflated to your comfort zone. Having more PSI in the Michelins will not Pop Rivets, nor cause cabinets within the Interior to... become loose from the Factory. An Airstream with experienced owners know where to upgrade hardware and travel with the same confidence as we have in our Oliver. For Boondocking... the Elite II IS a go anywhere travel trailer. A single axle, you may have the passenger walk along side when crossing a dip in the unpaved road. Although the clearance exceeds most other Travel Trailers easily, have that extra axle is worth every dollar spent. The only improvement made to our Oliver Elite II after just over Two Years, WITHOUT ANY UPGRADE OR IMPROVEMENTS. Imagine that if you own an Airstream. For Boondocking I knew where to upgrade hardware and walls on the 2019 model. Learned mostly in the 2006 23 foot, fixed it in the 25 foot and perfected it in the 27/28 foot Airstream. Now the 2019 Oliver Elite II and the Airstream 27 foot FBQ just Rock and Roll. (Nancy did make a fabric shower curtain to replace the factory plastic. I like her work! Soon we will be having to make a choice, which one of the two. License plates, taxes and insurance have increased our costs for two travel trailers. Enjoy your Oliver when time permits. Eventually time takes its toll... not the our Travel Trailer... the Human Beans within. Plan your next trip soon... time is being wasted.

I own a Casita and have camped solo for two years. I think I’m ready to look for an Oliver Legacy Elite II upgrade by August. Any advice for how to scope out a used one would be much appreciated!! I’m presently living in Texas. I hope to find something be with twin beds - with upgrades. Which ones are the most valuable?

Based on your location, you may want to research the watts required while cooling under "desert" conditions on any of the units you are considering. The Coleman 9.2k I'm considering uses almost 25% more watts under desert conditions than it does in "standard" conditions- 1150 watts vs 1410. Not sure if this large difference in watts is typical or something specific to this unit itself...

Buying anything that increases the trailer height would not be a positive move for many of us. Weight, width, length all to a point, would be less so. GJ

Upon contact a couple weeks ago, I was placed on a waiting list for a white unit, said to take 8 weeks for their shipment to arrive. They do have in stock however, black units.

Was planning ahead re Epoch LiFePO4 batteries. @rideadeuce installed the more expensive model B12460A since two of them fit in the battery bay. I'm interested in saving some $$$ and do not need "Victron Comms" so I've been studying the 12300A-H (300AH) and 12460ES (460AH) models to see what would be the highest AH that can fit in the bay (also don't care at all about the sliding tray). At first look, it appears the 460AH is too wide to fit two in the bay. Specs listed as such on their webpage: length 20.55" width: 9.45" height: 8.60". Then open the User's Manual and you will see the width and height numbers reversed (which makes more sense). I just emailed Epoch to please clarify. If the specs in the manual are correct, I see two 12460ES LiFePO4 batteries in our future sitting side-by-side in the battery bay, tray removed with 3/4" to spare!

sdgelkhart.com, $1350 delivered was my quote. See pic for a forum to visit to obtain in depth information on the Atmos 4.4, including installation and performance testing videos.

Lot less value without a solar package, or at least pre-wired. I read at some point they stopped pre-wiring when solar was not purchased. On the other hand, if you are only going to hook-up then no solar could save you money. Batteries less important since LiFePO has gotten much cheaper. I would not have purchased ours last year without this upgrade and we got a very good used price from a prior owner who lives in our hometown and delivered it to our driveway with cash-in-hand!

Congratz on the new tires @csevel. I'm too late to this thread, but I also went with new Michelin Agilis Cross Climate - LT225/75 R16. I love 'em, but I'd love any good reliable tire that is round and black. Many folks love those coopers. Keep them covered when not in use! I'm still a bit confused though. After all these years of many forum threads mentioning pressure from the factory, why are they still putting 80psi in them? I understand if one blows that will place more "pressure" on the others, but 80psi is one hell of a hard ride. I also keep mine at just under 50psi, but I travel extremely light too. No much extra in the way of toys, yet. I'll be at the factory in July getting the new suspension upgrade and windows on the old #110. I'll ask that question there. I forgot to open up that can of worms at the Alabama rally. LOL

Before plunking down between $60 and $80,000k depending on the YM you find: If I were looking for a used Oliver, the first thing I would want to see is a detailed spread sheet of what maintenance was performed by who and when? This would include receipts for the work completed. If you are not familiar with travel trailers maybe hire a reputable RV inspector to check everything. Kinda think of it as purchasing a second home. These trailers are not overly complicated machines, but they do require a fair amount maintenance and care. I would suggest you take a look at the owners manual for the year model you are considering in Oliver University. This will give you a great start on what owners should be inspecting and maintaining. If you find a used well kept Oliver, you may want to call the Oliver Service Center and see if they have a record of maintenance on the Hull#. Of course this forum is full of really valuable information and a great group of owners to help you with your decision on purchasing new or used. Ask away! When we purchased our Oliver new in 2020, our sales rep told us that the twin bed model is their most popular model/best seller. Four years later as of yesterday we took delivery of Hull #634. We are convinced Oliver is the best Travel Trailer made and are grateful to own one. All the best with your decision and happy hunting!

Welcome: I agree with Mike and topgun2 suggestions. If you have never owned a RV, it is a good idea to rent (even a different brand) RV to make sure camping is for you. Definately go to the factory to see the Ollies and to tour the factory to see how they are built. Make sure your tow vehicle is appropiate to haul the Elite II.

Yes, disconnect from power and let it sit for at least a day or so. We don’t use ours much either, but it is handy when we’re off of shore power and need it! The Xantrex service guy was very helpful. I’d do the disconnect and see how it goes. Mike

Thanks @jd1923 and @Mike and Carol found the older post about hard reset of Xantrex. Looks like procedure is removing both positive and negative cables and let sit couple days before reconnecting. I will give it a try next week when we return home.

We were making good progress. Currently in a rain delay!

@BigTexas Mine does have an easy start installed but I am not knowledgeable enough to know whether the black small capacitor is related to it or not. I took pics to order the spares like you stated, hope it helped. Most likely a fan motor will be my first purchase. My Dometic Penguin II 13.5K has run continuously for 6 years, summer and winter, heat and air. It has been very dependable so far, albeit loudly. Looking at serviceable parts at this point and then replacement when the time comes.

To close this out… I cleaned out all the old caulk and wiped it down with mineral spirits. I used 3M Marine 4000 and layed a bead all around the Oliver light. The next morning I simulated a good rain storm on the back of the trailer. No leaks. Hopefully this will last. When I was cleaning out the old caulk I was surprised that there wasn’t much to clean. Mike

Galley power strip, makes plugging in appliances much easier. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P889FHQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

In case anyone was wondering, I went with the Coopers

Some more recent pictures as things are progressing. Weather has delayed things a bit. They were starting to set trusses today.

Well, we’ve had many great week or weekend trips since getting our Ollie in Sep 2021 but we just returned home from our first two month traveling and fell in love with our Ollie all over again! What a wonderful way to go on adventures! Our first day was Wed April 10th and we arrived back this past Fri June 7th. Way too many photos to upload but will try to insert a few. Our stops included: 1) Keystone State Park, Sand Springs, OK - visiting family and grandkids. 2) Palo Duro Canyon State Park, Texas 3) Chupadero RV Park, San Antonio, NM. 4) Fool Hollow State Park, Show Low, AZ. 5) Lost Dutchman State Park, AZ. 6) White Tank Mountain Regional Park, AZ. 7) Dead Horse Ranch State Park, AZ. 8) Desert View Campground, South rim of Grand Canyon. 9) Mesa Verde RV Resort, CO. 10) Love’s RV Stop, Walsenburg, CO. 11) Historic Lake Scott State Park, KS. 12) Wilson State Park, KS. 13) Milford Lake State Park, KS. 14) Eisenhower State Park, KS. 15) Cracker Barrel, Independence, MO. 16) Dr Edmund A Babler Memorial State Park, Chesterfield, MO We set up camp, relaxed, looked at historical sites, biked, visited friends and relatives, and were wondering why we were ending it so soon. Our Ollie was a trooper through the mountains, we took Rte 60 through New Mexico and Arizona, and put some 3,800 miles on it during the two months. We stopped in Pie Town and of course bought an apple pie. We toured Sedona, Jerome, and rode the Verde Canyon Train. We camped on the edge of the Grand Canyon, toured through Mesa Verde, and even weathered tornado warnings in Kansas. Great trip! Wonderful memories made.

Sorry but I couldn’t get past the mailbox look!

A garage/barn bigger than the house? That's my kind of setup! 😀 And thank you for providing an undeniably valuable reason to purchase a drone: to check for leaf/detritus buildup behind the awnings without resorting to the dangerous ladder. Does that sound convincing? 😂

We'd love to retro-in another door for the Man Cave - definitely on our radar. A drive-through is the top-shelf option, IMO. My only concern at this point is loosing the existing back wall which currently is floor to ceiling with metal storage racks... Someday, for sure.

File this under the "you never know category." We are currently in Catalina State Park in Arizona. Park host came by today to inform us that the wash was running and the road out and in from the park is closed until further notice. Some folks went for it and left. We took it as a sign and are waiting it out , comfy and cozy with plenty of food and water.🤓

Great pictures! Ya gotta bring more water! Besides the small OTT Fresh Tank, we have 35 gallons in the truck bed: Norwesco 35 gal. Horizontal Leg Tank at Tractor Supply Co. Fill up at home with enough water for boondocking 7-8 days, 1-2 more if conservative. Lot of areas in the NF and BLM where you can legally let a little grey go at a time. I special ordered tank straps which work great, and we have a canvas cover (not yet installed in the picture). Always a full case of bottled spring drinking water, and a couple of gallons for coffee. Not running out of good food or adult beverages either!

This may interest you - I think that most people would describe the counter space as minimal but adequate. Certainly we could get by without the extension, but it's one of those mods that we'd have a hard time giving up now that we have it. But people manage to cook in the small Ollie, and I've prepared plenty of meals on a rock next to a campfire, so really, you just adjust to what you've got and discover that it works fine. An option you might consider is the Lagun table but with one of the folding marine tops rather than Oliver's standard. They are typically lighter, larger, and more versatile. Sadly, the place where we got ours has closed, but if you google for 'folding marine table top', you'll find quite a few choices. We find that we're more likely to use the dinette table as additional counter space, particularly for staging things coming off and on the grill, drinks, etc. We use the Lagun for dining, which frees up the dinette for that purpose. You'll also find that the small counters at the fridge and pantry are surprisingly useful. This is our setup, and we're pretty happy with it - it's downright luxurious imo:

We found a vendor that would fabricate a custom plastic cutting board for the kitchen. The main objective was to protect the glass cover over the stove top and provide a defined work area for various chores. We purchased a slightly undersized 24" x 31" piece with full bull nose edges and 1" rounded corners. On the bottom we installed half-round rubber bumpers. If interested, suggest that you contact- plasticcuttingboard.com.

Since I was taking some inside photos today, I thought I'd snap a few to add to this thread. Plus I'll add some that I've posted in other threads recently. Here's how we organize all our drawers: Top right, we use an expandable cultery tray from OXO - I cut out some pieces of a stiff felt liner from Ikea to put in each of the compartments, which cushions the utensils and helps keep the tray from getting marred - In the middle two and bottom left, we use a different OXO tray, with the same felt lining as above - Then on the bottom right, we keep two cutting boards, place mats, coasters, towels, etc., so no need for any organizer - For the nightstand drawer, I used the excellent trick that Bill came up with. But instead of the aluminum angle, I added some adjustable shelf pegs to the drawer, and then stuck some thick felt on the sides of the insert to both center it and keep it from sliding around. Then I placed a similar 10 x 16 tray in the bottom, also with some felt pads to keep it in place. Man, now I know where all the lip balm and sharpies end up. I added two wire organizers to the pantry door (glued some 1 x 2 PVC to the door to give some extra depth and something to screw to.). Unfortunately I can't find these exact items on Amazon now to link to - We added storage nets galore, and these are incredibly handy - In the pantry, I added a stainless plate from Amazon, to which I attached a small box from Ikea (discontinued) to use as a spice shelf. (The box slides under the pantry shelf when closed to keep the contents from bouncing out.). A bungee across the very top on the inside holds a folding drying mat perfectly. The boxes are Sterilite Clip Boxes, medium and small, which you can get on Amazon or at Target. They're the best fitting that I've found so far. On our last trip, I had trouble finding stuff to fill them. The light in the pantry is a Luminoodle Click. By the way, I buy bungee stuff from www.hookandcord.com. I asked for the cabinet instead of the microwave/convection oven, and we keep a toaster oven there, plus I made a shelf for plates and bowls - Some hooks by the door are always handy - As are some flashlights - Over the kitchen, I found these boxes for glassware, mini bar, etc. They're another discontinued item, but if you want to find something similar, they're 6.25"w x 11.5"d x 5"h. We keep out the two or three pans from our Magma set that we use all the time, while the rest stays in their storage bag. I lined the back of all our upper cabinets with the same stiff felt from Ikea that I used on the drawers (they had them on closeout sale, so I bought them out.) Like with the drawers, it keeps things from marring the fiberglass, plus I think it looks a lot better - The bath cabinet stays stuffed, but these boxes from Ikea help to keep it somewhat organized. I covered the back of the door with black vinyl to protect the mirrored surface - In the back of the attic, I put another storage net to hold books in place, and then in front of that, we keep camp chairs and other small items that get unloaded at the camp site. The rest is filled with electronics. -

G & T - Here is another idea for you: I've got two of these that I use to store little items in. They fit very nicely in the cubbies. I did glue strips of 3/8" thick foam on the bottoms so that the lower drawer would clear the lip of the storage area. They measure: 7" wide 7 1/8" tall 8 1/4" deep - including the little pull handles on each drawer

@Half Fast Hugo don't post coordinates or directions! You could show up after the rain ends to find dozens of "undocumented noncitizens!"