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Sorry to see you had this problem, but thank you for highlighting the issue so the rest of us know to check this. Because of your post, I just looked at my supports and thankfully the bolts, washers and nuts are there and tight, but it’s still one of those things that I normally would have never inspected.

The change to the two axle E2 does make backing less exciting than your ‘highly responsive’ Casita, but it is longer and you will notice the difference from the easy in-out ability of the Casita. I still miss it. I pulled my 17’ Casita for years using three different different generations of Toyota Land Cruisers. At 3000lbs it wasn’t until I got to my 2013 with the 5.7 Tundra engine that it felt painless. Moving to the the 5-6k lb E2 was like taking a step back to the 2007 4.7 small V8. That said, after a three week, 2500 mile trip from Texas to Ouray, CO this summer I found it worked well. 4th gear is standard, but I was able to stay with traffic pretty easily, generally 45-65+. Gas mileage was abysmal, but comes with the territory. A big 1/2 ton or easily a 3/4 ton is your friend, but my truck lets me do stuff others can’t, once I get to my location. Try it for a year and decide then. Might be able to actually buy a new truck by then.

One of my best friends tows a Casita. In very tight spots, when we travel together, my husband has backed hers for her. The short aframe and relatively heavy tongue can get a bit squirelly on the Casita. You'll get used to the Oliver difference, easily. As far as the Tundra, we have a bunch of folks on here who love the Tundra. Search "tundra" and you'll see. I think Toyota fans/owners are a happy, loyal bunch. Me, I'm not so brand loyal . Every modern half ton is capable, imo.

It's supposed to be one way, as an inlet. But like Bill suggested, the seal can go bad or be bad for the factory. It's easy to unscrew and inspect, if a little hard to get to, if you think yours doesn't seal well.

I'm excited for you! Delivery day is really special and exciting. Just take your time and try to have fun. Things should be a bit easier with the camping area right outside the delivery area. This should give you even more time to re-check everything - just to make doubly sure. I trust pics will be forth coming. Bill

Thanks to everyone on this post as well as others...Given our long wait is just about over, We took the liberty to build upon Fritz's and others great work and tried to incorporate any new issues/areas of concerns. While we know that Oliver has their own delivery checklist, going through this ourselves was a good way to "think" through all the systems. I am sure lots more can be added! Here is a link to our checklist and thanks again to all the work others did for us with their checklists! Edit: If anyone is interested in a Word version - we would be happy to provide it.

Thanks for all the good information. I pushed the button and filled out the form to see an Oliver. We’ve towed that squirrelly Casita all the way to Nova Scotia and back. One thing I’ve learned about backing in trailers or docking boats is to let go of any macho pride. I can pull out and try it again as long as it takes. I might even ask (gasp) for help 🙂

Hey Jeff, I think your Tundra will do fine. The Elite II is heavier and longer, but there are lots of folks towing with a half ton and 5.7L. We’ve been in a lot of tight FS, BLM and COE sites, I don’t think you’ll be too restricted with the larger Oliver. If you go to the Oliver main page there’s a “See an Oliver” button on the top right. That would get you set if there is someone in your area who can show. There are a lot of loyal Oliver owners, the likeable part….. 🤣. Welcome to the forum - Mike

Something like this: Or how about this: As you can tell - I'm not a graphic designer and maybe a nice pen and ink would be better/clearer than a picture. A company called Vistaprint can get you one of these for $4.00 in the bumper sticker size. Bill

Hello Everyone, We only started looking at Oliver Travel Trailers a couple months ago due to a need we had in the family. After reading everything we could find and watching lots of videos we decided it was the one for us. On our way home from a 36 day driving vacation out west, we decided to get an appointment to tour the factory and talk to someone in person. We met with Anita on 9/23 for the tour and discussion. As someone mentioned earlier there were several Ollie's sitting in the parking lot awaiting pickup. However, there was also one whose owner had a major health issue and was not able to pick up his 2021 Elite II. Anita told us to take a look at it. We fell in love. It had more options than we were planning to purchase, but since it was a 2021 the cost was within our budget. We bought it! And we pick it up next Wednesday, Oct. 6. We are so excited and can't wait to take our first trip. We have learned so much from these forums and are looking forward to learning a lot more from you pros. We are totally new to camping. We both recently retired and looking forward to many years in our Oliver. Thank you all for the wonderful information you have shared. Kathy

Link to Catalog A lot of great ideas and craft have come together to get this catalog update ready. New products, new choices in wood, and new finishes to match Oliver’s décor options. I have used the most common questions about my craft to layout this catalog and help you decide what your style is and fits your needs. I now have a new email address for orders and questions – FoyablesInWood@gmail.com. Lastly – as we all have seen around us my prices have increased. Everything from wood, finishes, supplies, and freight has jumped in the last 4 months. If you have an order place with me, your grandfathered into the old pricing. All orders from October 1st are under this new pricing structure. Onward, Foy 517933762_FoyblesCatalogV3.1f.pdf

True, but what trailer manufacturer does? Remember that B2B chargers are what's required, and while Sterling has been around the marine world for a while I think, they weren't well known in the trailer or overland community until the past few years. So the trailer world has traditionally just ignored the fact that the vehicles could't charge the batteries; just up to now the battery banks were too small for anyone to care (also, people assumed that the charge that they got from their solar while on the road was coming from their truck). Truth is, I think adding a B2B charger to either lithium package is more likely to add another layer of disappointment. Beneficial, yes; but still inadequate. I don't think that Oliver's sin is so much the lack of B2B charging, but that they aren't communicating the limited ability of either that or their solar to charge a super large battery bank. In their defense, most owners find the subject to be pretty opaque. But FYI to all potential buyers, there's a very limited use case for a large battery bank without also investing in large panels and perhaps also a B2B system; i.e., it makes sense only if you're planning to use power at a faster rate than you can recover. There is, and I can't stress this enough, no way to recharge them for continuous use, at least not one that makes sense with this trailer - Oliver's solar package will provide about 70Ah on average, and B2B charging maybe 100 for an 8 hour drive. Even on a long, sunny drive, you would only plan for 170 Ah even with B2B. Not 350, and certainly not 570, which is what would be required to recharge an exhausted pro or platinum LFP package. So, at the end of the day, either your consumption is within those charging limits (in which case, you didn't need the batteries); or you carry a generator to recharge them (in which case, you didn't need the batteries); or you use electricity with wild abandon for six days and then go plug in or run that generator for 6 hours (at least you had 6 days of quiet). I'm not saying no one should buy them; but wow, everyone should give it some deep thought before doing so. There's advantages, just few and far between.

Other than the overly large grill (like every other new truck and car these days), I like the styling of the Tundra. I enjoy truck research and window shopping, so I was excited to see the new Tundra in terms of it heating up the 1/2 ton market even more. Lots of cool trucks out there. Of course tow capacity, payload, reliability, and safety are top considerations for me when the time comes to upgrade to a new tow vehicle capable of towing a future Oliver! 😉

We're excited for ya'll 🙂 Hope all goes well! We're a little behind you with a mid January pickup...thanks for your help 🙂 John

Did you order a “lithium capable” charger board? If not, change or cancel your order. The newest board has a switch so you can upgrade the batteries without having to buy another complete board. The cost should be the same. Order from here for a much lower price: https://www.ltdrvparts.com/PROGRESSIVE-DYNAMICS-PD4045-LITHIUM-CHARGING-SECTION-PD4045LICSV-PD4045LICSV.htm https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/4812-how-to-progressive-dynamics-pd4045-lithium-upgrade/ John Davies Spokane WA

Added a “Yard Trash XXL bike cover and elastic cargo net to snug the cover up to the bikes. This should help keep the bikes clean. No issues with real tail light visibility even with these covers on.

Same experience. On the road, and the charger/converter failed. Have lead acid batteries, + 5 years old. Happened to have a trickle charger with me, and used that to recharge the batteries overnight, every night.. Topgun’s advice is spot on. Replaced the the PD charger/converter, and that solved the problem.

My trailer #218 does that when climbing really steep mountain grades, such as 5000 feet in half an hour, the sudden pressure change burps the grey water odor out the kitchen sink trap. I started using a little Camco TST and that is no longer a problem, it kills the nasty odor and adds a bit of lemon scent.There may be something wrong under the sink, in looking at my plumbing diagrams, there is another vent for the grey tank other than the one in the bathroom, mine may be dysfunctional since the sink burps and the grey tank is really slow to drain if the travel valve is closed..... Does anyone know if it is a TWO way valve, or just for either negative or positive pressure? You don't need to add the full recommended dose of 4 ounces of TST unless you know the tank will get completely full, I usually dribble in a couple of ounces max. One reason I like it is that every Walmart has it in the RV section for around $7. I save the bottles for other uses, like carrying bleach (water treatment), vinegar (composting toilet) or mineral oil (drain valve lubricant). The bottles store neatly in the pantry without taking up as much space as the big round bottles. Be sure to relabel them! The original labels come off easily. JohnDavies Spokane WA

Pretty exotic destination for someone (like us!) from the West Coast. My wife’s cousin has there summer house overlooking the Straits of Northumberland. We set up on their lawn - what a view!

Just be sure to NOT ask for directions or your "Man Card" will be at risk 😆 Shame that CA is not all that close to FL in that in a couple of weeks you could see a bunch of Ollies all in one place. Bill

Might want to add these: 1. Tank hold down straps under passenger-side bed. 2. Battery Box support bolts

I was not saying it was squirrelly all the time. Just different in tight spaces. Like trying to get between two trees, with less than 6" on each side, in a provincial park in Ontario.. that was a fun one. My friend enjoys hers, too. One of our first travel trailer trips together was to Quebec, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia. It was a beautiful trip, and memories of a lifetime.

With some cross-bracing on the 'floor' of the interior wall where the mount is and judicious use of a small hydraulic jack against the aluminum mounting plate upper base(with wood between), I was able to inch the mount up so the holes matched, maybe 1/2". Not real thrilled thinking about fiberglass moving, but figured I got it back where it was from the factory. It was obvious the screws had loosened over time and bounced around in the holes before falling out. Guess I've got two nuts and four washers floating around in hull somewhere. The bolts were nice enough to drop right in a crevice by the support. I ended up installing zinc-coated bolts, with smooth portion going through the braces, in there for now, since I had them. That and double washers. John, worth getting stainless bolts with nylon locknuts? I have a hard time believing they were tight from the factory given the minimal highway miles on the trailer. 5000 miles on the trailer, but no idea when they fell out. I have no idea why they don't use nylon locknuts in places like that. Critical bolt and hard to get too.... Will see what Jason says this week, before I close it all up. This is the second time troubleshooting one small problem and discovering serious structural QC issues under the fiberglass. All fixed reasonably easily, but would have been serious if left undiscovered.

Glad it worked out so well! Getting an Oliver that quick is unusual. Welcome to both of you and we look forward to meeting you. Mike

Steve & Ann, we opted not to get the street side awning, we do like to keep the windows open so i installed the small white gutters on all the windows, it only helps with a very light rain (mist) or the dew in the morning.

We did not get the street side awning and we’ve never missed it. We stay at full hookup campgrounds most of the time, and the street side of the sites at campgrounds isn’t a place you want to be sitting. Usually not much space on the street side of your site at a campground. Your street side is your left side neighbor’s curb side, so they get priority for space on that side. And that’s the side with your sewer, water and electric hookups and you’ll also be looking right at your neighbor on that side who is sitting out under his curbside awning. We just close the street side windows if it’s raining. And I’m not a fan of leaving even the curbside awning out if it’s raining anyway. Too many stories of Ollie owners having the awning blown off in sudden wind gusts (the auto retract feature works slowly). More expense and more weight that we wanted to avoid so we skipped the street side awning. Seems like a very expensive rain gutter.

A big welcome to the family! Indeed, you two are very lucky (sorry that I can't say the same for the person with the health issue). Take your time with your new baby and it will treat you well. You have many adventures ahead. Bill

I don't have a ton of experience with them yet but thus far I'm glad we have them on both sides as we do a fair amount of camping at the often drizzly coast and indeed extending them a foot or so helps - we are both keen on ventilation. And indeed on the new (we have a 2021 model) awnings the water will pool in the awning though it overflowed and drained a bit before breaking the awning at least so far. Just don't stand under the awnings when you retract them!! And yes, using the awnings in varied conditions will of course hasten the day on which we'll need to replace the fabric portion. C'est la vie.

We have only the curbside awning, and have not left it fully extended in rain (because rain is often accompanied by wind). We have, however, left it partially extended (perhaps 1 to 3 feet from the trailer) in the rain. With this amount of extension, the water does not drain from the awning, and instead pools between the aluminum arms. Not good, because it weights down the awning. The fabric is "breathable," but does not let enough water filter through to avoid pooling. I understand that it was easier to set angles on older-style manual awnings with support arms (allowing for better drainage); these would be much better for rain (and wind). Also, rain can bring down leaves or pine needles, leaving gunk on the awning. I've waited until the gunk dries, swept it off with a broom (while standing on a ladder, or blowing it off with the leaf blower (essential camping tool🙂). Again, I believe that the older-style manual awning would allow temporarily setting it at a steeper angle to allow cleaning before rolling it up. So, in concept, the awnings would be great for protecting partially open windows when raining. In practice, not so much. Wish they did.

Steve & Ann - I didn't get the street side awning. I really don't camp very much in places where it is really hot (desert SW for instance) and where I do camp without much shade I'm usually at altitude. In addition, I really don't even use the curbside awning very much since I'm out all day either fishing or hiking. I see that you have Hank. If he is going to be with you and if you are going to be leaving him in the Ollie while you are out, those awnings do help to keep the interior cooler versus what it would be without the awnings. Also, if you generally camp in "normal", organized campgrounds then there will be those times that either due to the sun's direction or the kind of site you are in, the street side awning just might come in handy. Bottom line - for me - I'm glad I didn't spend that money to get it. Bill

Anyone ever come up with a tailgate sticker? Say one with a picture of an Oliver and your hull #? So when you drive by, waving like a normal "stalker", without the Oliver on; they have some idea you are a fellow Oliver owner? Probably would have to have some extra referral brochures for when at the grocery store or gas station for 'wannabees.

And all this time I thought we were OTTO'S. Mossey

I think an Oliver sticker is an awesome idea, and I’ve got a pretty good idea where I’d put one…

Obviously, at delivery, you missed the part about the secret handshake? No sticker for me - I'd rather that everyone continued to think that I'm just a bit (maybe a lot) deranged. 🥰🤣😉😇

i think that a 22 tundra and a 22 ollie would be a good running hardware for the next 10yrs...should make an interesting retirement.?

Ok - I used to drink out of the garden hose, so my brain may already be damaged...just saying. RO systems are great - but require super good pre-filters and lots of power. We opted for cartridge style filtration. Here is what we are planning to use. We are not water sanitation experts and this is a very confusing topic for those of us who aren't - pore size vs. charged particle capture, carbon vs. nanofilament, NSF/ANSI certifications and their actual meaning.... This is coupled with the fact that each of our bodies are different in terms of what they can tolerate - I have a buddy that can drink pond scum no problem. Long gone are my days of drinking straight from a spigot or garden hose with my aged gastrointestinal tract!

Thanks for doing this Fritz. Nice Job. I have printed both lists (yours and mine) and will compare over coffee tomorrow morning. From first glance it looks complete. I'll pass along any adds I may have which would be of interest to any new owner.

I did get to know about the secret handshake, and got to practice it. What I didn't do is tell anybody about it. Now you have told the world! May the secret die in peace...