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A little further up US101 after Tillamook just across the border in Washington is Cape Disappointment State Park. It’s a big park and was full the days we were there. A lot of sites on the beach, ours was about 50 yards from the shore but we still heard the crashing waves all night. The weather was cool and gray, probably normal for the end of August.9 points
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Since purchase of my OTT last year, I had been thinking of installing a MicroAir EasyStart on my Truma A/C. However, I wasn’t sure if it would allow my Truma A/C to run off my Champion 2000W generator, especially since I run it on propane and often camp at elevation. Fortunately for me I met @mossemi at the Oliver Rally last May and it turns out that he has the same generator and like me, runs it on propane. He told me that with the EasyStart, his A/C ran fine off his generator even at elevation. Thanks to Mike for that info. So now you can imagine my excitement when they announced that there were going to be ten EasyStarts given away at the Rally! But alas, I was not one of the winners. However, I met a nice couple from Oklahoma who did win one. And as luck would have it, they had decided not to use it, so they graciously gave it to me! Although I made several attempts, they refused any compensation. So I owe them a big thanks. Below are the details of my installation. First, thanks to @Patriot for previously posting this video: SoftStart Install on Truma A/C I found it to be very helpful for understanding how to remove the A/C covers, where to mount the EasyStart, how to run the wiring, how to get access to the control board and for making connections to the capacitor. However, DO NOT follow the detailed wiring instructions because the video is for a SoftStart not an EasyStart. Next, a couple of thoughts on safety. After I removed the A/C cover I found an old mud dauber’s nest. Fortunately it was not inhabited at the time. But they seem to like that area, so beware. Second, the video doesn’t mention it but you should make sure that the capacitor has been discharged before working around it. Since I’m not a qualified electrician, I won’t comment any further. Finally, I used my 17’ Werner ladder to get access to the roof. The optional Werner platform made this much easier. Also, accessing the roof from the curb side felt safer since the awning acts as a short railing. I used a sheet of rubber tool box liner and a piece of interlocking foam utility mat to protect the fiberglass and provide slip protection. With those additions, I felt safe enough to work in my stocking feet. As shown in the video, the white cover can be taken off by removing the eight screws (covered with lap sealant) with a T30 Torx driver (note that the two screws at the back are shorter than the others). Following that, removal of two additional T30 screws allows the foam cover to be lifted off. Be careful as you work with the cover off because the exchanger fins are easy to dent. Access to the silver electrical box is achieved by removing three T15 screws (one on top, and one on each side). Here’s the EasyStart device that I installed and the universal installation kit that comes with it: In general, I followed the wiring instructions provided by Micro-Air. I will say that I found the generic wiring instructions to be a little confusing (did I mention that I’m not a qualified electrician?). However, I was able to find specific wiring instructions for the Truma (that even I could understand) here: EasyStart Wiring Instructions for Truma A/C Although not necessary, I first removed the cap covering the wiring connections to the compressor motor with an 8 mm socket to confirm the wiring colors at the R, C and S terminals. (I don't know why but this photo is upside down and I couldn't figure out how to change it). I did deviate slightly from the installation instructions in one aspect, as I chose not to cut any wires but instead use terminal connections. That way, if I ever decide to remove the EasyStart, I can put everything back exactly the way it was. So instead of cutting the Red wire coming from the control board, I removed it and installed the provided 14 gauge Black wire with female terminal in its place. I then cut the Black wire and crimped on a male terminal to the portion not used and connected it to the female terminal on the Red wire that I had just removed. Finally, I used a WAGO push-in wire connector to tie these two to the black wire on the EasyStart. Next, after removing the white cap from the run capacitor, I installed the Orange wire from the EasyStart onto the Herm terminal next to the White wire. Then, I removed the Blue wire from the capacitor terminal and replaced it with the White wire from the EasyStart. Finally, I connected the Blue wire that I had just removed to the Brown wire from the EasyStart. Here’s a look at the wiring after everything was tidied up with zip ties: Overall, I’m pretty happy with the installation. However, looking back there is one thing that I wished I would have done and that is to add a bit of HVAC tape to the top of the EasyStart to give some additional support. I’m not sure how well the double sided tape will hold to the foam, especially given the conditions that some of our roads are in. I’ll probably go back and do that at a later time. BOTTOM LINE: After the install of the EasyStart, I noticed a very gradual ramp up of the compressor, as expected. More importantly, I can report that my Truma A/C runs very well with my 2000W Champion generator running on propane, even at 6000’ elevation. Added bonus: Unlike before, I can now run the A/C off my 15 A circuit at home. If you have any questions about this install, feel free to comment below.6 points
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That is the valence which holds the privacy shade and night time shade. When you pull either shade down it has tiny magnets which attach the bottom of the shade to the interior window frame so the shade does not naturally hang straight down away from the window frame. I think and really do hope there will better future designs of this shade configuration. As it stands now, 💯 just not a fan of the look or the function. It needs to be completely redesigned IMHO.5 points
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If you are going up US101 in Oregon you must stop at the Tillamook cheese factory in Tillamook. They have a nice self guided walking tour of the factory and a big gift shop to load up on cheese and other dairy items. We’ll worth the stop! Entrance, the cow portrait leaves no doubt where you are! This is a pretty cheesy photo, buy why not?5 points
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Landed at an old favorite CG in upstate NY near Rhinebeck called Interlake. Took a few photos of XPLOR with the “blood moon”. I can’t say we actually saw a total lunar eclipse. However the moon was really really bright and beautiful as ever. An AI take on the Blood Moon. 🤷♂️ The "blood moon" on September 7, 2025, refers to the reddish appearance of the moon during a total lunar eclipse, a phenomenon caused by sunlight scattering through Earth's atmosphere. In astrology, this event signifies a powerful time of revelations, emotional breakthroughs, and accelerated change, particularly in relationships and personal paths, as it occurs in the intuitive sign of Pisces. It is a significant astrological event, seen as a "portal of change," that challenges individuals to balance fantasy and reality while fostering spiritual growth and authenticity. What is a blood moon? A blood moon is a total lunar eclipse, where the Moon appears red or orange due to sunlight passing through Earth's atmosphere and casting a reddish glow on its surface. It is a striking visual event, often described as a fiery or copper-colored moon. Astrological significance: Time of Revelation: Eclipses are powerful moments for breakthroughs, bringing hidden emotions and long-held truths to light. Pisces Energy: This eclipse falls in the mutable, intuitive sign of Pisces, emphasizing themes of healing, empathy, compassion, imagination, and spiritual growth. Balance of Opposites: Occurring in Pisces and opposite its opposing sign Virgo, this eclipse highlights the need to balance intuition with discipline, fantasy with reality, and creativity with responsibility. Accelerated Change: Lunar eclipses are seen as agents of upheaval that accelerate personal and collective transformation, dissolving stale patterns and demanding action. What to expect: Emotional Intensity: You may feel a heightened sense of emotion and intensity, with significant shifts in relationships and personal dynamics being almost inevitable. Personal Reflection: The event encourages shedding old habits and beliefs, fostering authenticity and courage to embrace your true self. Spiritual Awakening: The energy of the eclipse promotes deeper spiritual connections, trust, and the ability to surrender to the flow of life. Karmic Adjustments: This eclipse is seen as a major checkpoint for karmic adjustments and potentially, grand finales or new beginnings. This photo of XPLOR and our TV was taken while sitting next to our campfire. A peaceful evening for sure camped in the Hudson River Valley.5 points
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You may find success by re-graining the stainless finish on your existing sink using red and/or gray scotch brite hand pads. I did this with great success on a stainless oven door which had been heavily scuffed during transport. Looked like new after application of some elbow grease. https://specialtystainless.com/tips-stainless-steel-countertops/articles-about-stainless-steel-countertops/graining-blending/4 points
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I have repeatedly stated how the Cielo Breez Max thermostat is effective in resolving inherent humidity spikes due to the a/c supply fan running continuously in the Oliver. This particular device has a Comfy Mode feature that will turn off said fan in sync with the compressor and thus, significantly lessen moisture from being reintroduced back into the cabin space. I would like to share the results of a test performed yesterday as tangible proof of its effectiveness: As I rolled up to the COW Barn with my Starlink Mini’s new Standby Mode unpaused (low-speed data plan), the Cielo phone app was used to start the Drieha Atmos 4.4 from my vehicle to begin cooling. I spent about twenty minutes reorganizing inside the van before opening up the CB and entering the Oliver. I should mention we had a temperature drop from the day before, so not real hot (83°), but relative humidity was high (72%) (P1). The Atmos was still cooling in Comfy Mode (preset to turn off when temp falls below 76° and turn on when temp goes above 77°) and the Oliver was 77°/49% (temp/humidity) at entry per the Cielo’s display (P2). A few minutes later the Atmos turned off in total (supply fan and compressor), the display was 75°/45% (P3). As the interior temp increased the Atmos turned back on in total, the display was 77°/51% (P4). It is important to note that the humidity rose 6% during this total off period. The Atmos then turned back off in total, the display was 75°/47% (P5) with a 4% drop in humidity. I let the Atmos continue to cycle in like manner a while longer before switching from Cielo to remote operation (P6) set at 75°. Since the Cielo can still be used to monitor temp/humidity, at time of remote start the display was 75°/52% (P7) and the compressor shutdown soon after (supply fan continued to run). When the compressor came back on, the display was 76°/75% (P8). Yikes, a 23% spike in humidity! The compressor shutdown once again, the display was 75°/53% (P9) and back on again, the display was 76°/74% (P10); a 21% spike. Compressor off at 75°/53% (P11), on at 76°/72% (P12); a 19% spike. As demonstrated, it is evident that the Cielo’s Comfy Mode does in fact lessen those dreaded humidity spikes experienced at times, you be the judge!3 points
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I like the exterior look. The interior side, especially the valence? Not so much at all. To be honest the limited opening would seriously make me think twice about purchasing the trailer.3 points
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Earlier in the thread someone posted that the sliders aren't available now, so Oliver had to go with the awning style windows. Personally I like what we got in our hulls #1290 and 1291. John3 points
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I enjoy waking in the middle of the night and sliding the window open to gaze at the stars!3 points
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Sorry we’re not home in Everett to meet you. If the clinton to Mukilteo ferry is in your plans, consider lunch at Ivars in the Mukilteo waterfront. When exiting the ferry take a right into the hwy, then a quick left at the next light into the waterfront park parking. You could have lunch at ivars ir visit the scuttle but brew pub. We are in Hells Gate State park today.3 points
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In this view of the Tetons I'm headed WAY up the Gros Ventre River. Just north of the "major" (not) town of Kelly this was a place I could not resist to take the first pic. However, if you are ever near Moran Junction look for Elk Ranch Road and head for GPS: 43.82592677366998, -110.50216569188429. Here there are some old buildings and great views of the Tetons without being around 1,000 of your closest friends. Also, note that there is plenty of room to turn an Oliver around here. Finally - if you are in this area and have never eaten Dornan's Pizza (on the upper deck)(GPS:43.65754766116248, -110.71075629684981) , it is pretty good with a great view of both the Tetons and planes preparing to land at the Jackson airport. While at Dornan's you can also get gas, beer, wine, fishing stuff and a small selection of grocery items. Bill p.s. If you decide to go to Dornan's and you are towing the Ollie - a couple of suggestions- 1. Go early. The pizza place opens at 11:30 am and there will be a line of 20 to 50 people at that time. 2. Do not park down in the "store/gas area" with the Ollie. If you can pull down into that area so that you can turn around and head out. Park on the side of the access road and walk the short distance down into the store area. p.p.s. HERE is another review of Dornan's3 points
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Here's another camping site just off the Chief Joseph Highway - and - this one's free. No water or electric or dump but there is a pit toilet and fire ring. Crandall Creek is at the bottom of the hill behind my Ollie and there are some nice fish in that creek. GPS - 44.848679, -109.639157 Bill p.s. note the last pic - there are times when the wind comes straight off those mountains in the distance and it can blow fairly hard.3 points
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Yep, the exterior look is awesome, then it all goes downhill from there. I don't blame Oliver, I'm sure these changes to the windows were the last thing that they wanted to do...2 points
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Nice! Looking forward to installing a Cielo Breez Max along with the Greenland Turbro unit that I'll be installing soon. Thank you for making us all aware of this thermostat and it's capabilities!2 points
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Me too, dawn is my favorite time with coffee in hand!2 points
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What the heck is that wood-looking thing? A valence, and for what? I installed shelves up there! Please don't take everything I write to heart. 😎 We love OTT and 2x that sentiment in owning Hull #113! But do take me seriously when working M&R on a trailer, our tow vehicles, or anything I tear apart! This mod was pretty cool, however I later mounted the cupholder (on my side only) to be rear of trailer. It was in my line-of sight when propped in bed looking out the window. Chris loves hers as-is. I just love waking up in the Oliver, crack the window shade open a few inches. Looking to see, what kind of day will it be? 😂 Give me a replacement window? My user-story is one about it functioning fully while lying in bed as it does today. Otherwise who cares? Sure is pretty! 🤣2 points
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Years ago I traveled that coastline (by bicycle) and there is so much to see there -- Cape Flattery Lighthouse, Fort Stevens SP, Nehalem Bay SP, plenty of trails and cultural sights. Thanks for sharing, it brings back great memories!1 point
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If they are black concave pits, I don’t think barkeepers friend would work. I believe it only works for light surface rust.1 point
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That is some fine work, John, excellent job!! You'll not only have the confidence in your equipment going forward but you'll also have the knowledge (and tools) to tackle any situation that comes along should something go wrong. Regarding having the parts and tools required at hand I still struggle with that as it seems like no matter how simple the job I find myself running back and forth to the garage several times to retrieve nearly all of the tools I own!!1 point
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Certainly not for the new retro 50’s style roll up privacy shades now in the 26 YM. Those shades are absolutely uglier than a mud duck!! 🤣 My bride nailed it when she said they are “ugly”. Just calling it as we see it. Just no beauty or seamless function with these new shades. Oliver just might want to go back to the drawing board on these shades. I sat in the 26 YM and studied the lower bars on the shade when rolled up as pictured. Both privacy shade bars actually loosely hit the interior window frame when the shade is rolled up. It will rattle and beat the black interior frame senseless when headed down the highway. 🤔 The valance gives a very retro dated look and removes the sano clean interior look we are accustomed to. On our current trip my bride and I have really enjoyed the cool air cross breeze we have experienced with our current sliding windows. Unfortunately this open window cross breeze goes away with these new awning windows. You may still get air flow with the Max Air fan on, but you totally loose the natural cross breeze for sure. Just my observations. Edit - take good care of your sliding windows! As mentioned earlier, Lippert no longer produces them!1 point
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Regarding the induction cooktop, we installed a 36 inch five element cooktop in our house when we remodeled the kitchen a couple years ago. Holy cow that thing is absolutely awesome, even fun to use. Bonus was our wedding gift cookware set from 32 years earlier were already induction compatible. And as others have mentioned, since the ceramic top only sits about an eighth inch above the counter top, it’s just additional counter space. And talk about safe to use, spilled grease will never ignite on the cook surface and you can lay a sheet of paper against the base of a boiling pot of water with no chance of it igniting. And again as mentioned earlier no gas hazard or combustion fumes. Regarding the induction cooktop now offered in the Oliver, just the fact you will no longer need to open a window and turn on the vent fan to run the stove is enough for me to want one. Perhaps necessary if you are deep frying but otherwise no risk or need at all. With that said, I would never remove the remainder of our propane system because I like redundancy, and prefer gas heating hands down.1 point
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As we make our way north, we booked a few nights on the fly here at Promise Land SP near Greentown, Pa. A really quiet and well kept park. Nice clean bathhouses too! Our low tonight it will be 60 and breezy. Perfect with windows open wide for great sleeping weather! $27 a night electric only. The Pennsylvania Pocono Mountains have a special beauty about them. This pic was just a quick ✅ of our courtesy lights before dark last night. Love the Oliver exterior lighting when its needed. Spicy Kickin Chickin on the grill!! 🤪1 point
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Great question Jd. I opted to give AI a shot at this one 🤔and here is what I learned- AI Overview- Wax buildup, often appearing as a yellow, oily, or petroleum jelly-like substance, can occur in the LP gas lines of refrigerators (and other propane appliances) . This issue is primarily linked to impurities in the propane itself, specifically oily contaminants introduced during the filling of LP bottles. Causes of wax build-up Impurities in Propane: LP gas, while primarily gaseous, can contain small amounts of oil and other contaminants. These can be introduced during the filling process at the propane supplier. System Design: Certain parts of the LP system, like the SOV (solenoid operating valve) filter and the gas jet in Dometic or Norcold refrigerators, are particularly susceptible to clogging due to their small size and the nature of the oil contamination. Degrading Hoses: While less common, some buildup may originate from the gradual degradation of propane hoses over time. Risks and consequences Reduced Gas Flow: Wax buildup can restrict the flow of propane to the refrigerator's burner, impacting its ability to light or maintain a strong flame. Overheating: In the case of Dometic and Norcold refrigerators, restricted gas flow can lead to the cooling unit boiler overheating, potentially damaging the refrigerator. Soot Buildup: Incomplete combustion caused by inadequate gas flow can also lead to soot accumulation in the burner and flue, further hindering performance. Addressing the problem Cleaning the System: Disassembly and cleaning of the gas lines, including the burner, flue, and orifice, may be necessary to remove the wax buildup. David Force gave @carnivore very solid advice! 👍🏻 **** Cleaning Solutions: Isopropyl alcohol (91%) is recommended for flushing out the system, while acetone can also be used, but care must be taken to avoid contact with rubber or plastic parts.. Preventing future issues Using Clean Propane: Consider sourcing propane from reputable suppliers known for clean gas. Filter Maintenance: If the refrigerator has a filter in the SOV valve, regular inspection and replacement or cleaning can help prevent clogs. Bottle Draining: If oil contamination is suspected in an LP bottle, it can be drained and flushed when empty by removing the valve and turning the tank over. Regular Maintenance: Adhering to the manufacturer's recommendations for routine maintenance, such as cleaning the burner, flue, and burner orifice, can help ensure optimal performance and minimize the risk of buildup according to www.ezfreezerefrigerator.com.1 point
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We have had the same issue on several of our cabinet doors as well. Ditto the advice above about using Blue Loctite (#243) or equivalent on the threads. I also noticed that the machine screws holding the doors to the hinges only engage with a few turns of the threads. I don't know if this is the same on all model years or not. I changed out the machine screws to a slightly longer one that engages more threads (and thus the Loctite thread locker *should* perform better). The jury is still out on this as I've only recently made this change. OEM screw size: M3-0.50 x 6mm long, stainless steel, Phillips truss head Replacement screw size: M3-0.50 x 8mm long, 18-8 stainless steel, Phillips truss head, with an oversized M3 18-8 stainless steel washer under the head. I ordered mine from McMaster-Carr, but you can likely find smaller or per-unit quantities from another supplier. M3-0.50 x 8mm Phillips truss head Screws: https://www.mcmaster.com/92467A119 Oversize M3 washers (9mm OD): https://www.mcmaster.com/91116A1201 point
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The Falken Wildpeak line is hard to beat for price and durability. https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/ht02 The WILDPEAK H/T02 redefines the Highway Terrain tire, delivering industry-leading performance and durability all year long. Featuring rigid tread blocks and a rugged upper sidewall, the H/T02 is built to meet and exceed the demands of today’s pickup truck drivers, from construction site activities to towing and hauling duties. Advanced 4D Nano Design and 3D Canyon Sipe Technology demonstrate Falken’s commitment to excellence, and provide the H/T02 with enhanced all-season drivability. After rigorous tests using the latest ¾-ton diesel pickups, all LT-size offerings of the WILDPEAK H/T02 earned an “HD” badge on the tire’s sidewall, highlighting the Heavy Duty construction with which these tires were built. For those demanding durability and longevity from their truck tires, the H/T02 is in a class of its own.1 point
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Honestly, you cannot have enough pressure, meaning load carrying capacity in a second axle/tire to cover the GTWR load upon tire failure (unless you want 80 PSI, the reason why legal depts of RV manufactures suggest this crazy number on your trailer sticker). Either you have muscle memory from 30-40 years or more driving old trucks and towing dozens of cargo and flatbed trailers, or you need to rely on a TPMS (check it often). Yes, redundancy is one of the key factors in mitigating risk. For this reason, the idea of an Elite I (a single axle trailer) is not for me. Having owned horse trailers, farm stock trailers, car haulers, cargo and flatbed trailers, certainly a dozen trailers over a lifetime, and by my choice they are ALL dual-axle trailers. I've had blowouts on desert roads at 70 MPH. The tire tread rips the fender off a car-hauler. I realize it in milliseconds and (btw don't hit the brakes) coast nicely to the shoulder. Run you tire pressure per the load charts and add 5 PSI for a safety of margin. Additional PSI will cause your belongings to suffer, cause your leaf springs to failure (see the threads here) and just more bad stuff! Trust me (and many others here with considerable lifetime experience).1 point
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Look at your table above, at 45 PSI the tire holds 1790 LBS x 4 = 7,160 LBS. Our Oliver ready to camp under 6600 LBS, so we could be at 40 PSI, but since that is the lowest number on the chart, I bump it up to 45 PSI. Ran my tires at 46 last time I checked since they were all just a hair above that number. @John E Davies ran his Mouse at 42 PSI for years which you can see in his posts. If you have upgraded to 5200 LB axles and higher rated leaf springs and carry over 8000 LBS total, then 55 PSI would be the right number. The right pressure for the load should not create excessive heat.1 point
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Actually, the number 225 in 225/75R16 is metric, meaning 225 mm. The 75 means the profile (height) is 75% of the width on a 16" rim. Standard sizes are all in inches and are today less common ever since Michelin came to the US in the 80s. With some research I found out that Michelin has created a new tire category. This C tire (Commercial) is more expensive than their LT, has a higher load rating (not needed for the EII 7000 GTWR) and is not snow rated (also not necessary for a trailer). Question, is it worth $54 plus tax more per tire? No, the LT model on our Oliver is fine for almost $240 less. Turns out Michelin has created a new tire category; I had not seen before. The following copied from Tyre markings explained: How to read a tyre? | MICHELIN P: Passenger Car LT: Light Truck C : Van commercial tyre XL, HL or Reinforced : Tyres with a higher load capacity... T: Temporary (spare wheels)1 point
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We put New tires on our 2019 EII in Jan 2024 after 50K miles of use, and the tires were about to age out. (Still had a lot of tread.) We went to Discount Tire (also called America's Tire) and we put on new Michelin's. Tire Selected: Michelin Agilis Cross Climate - LT225/75 R16 Load Range E1 Black Sidewalls Discount Tire had no issue with these on our trailer. The tires are great so far. We run them at 55PSI and they have plenty of load capacity. \1 point
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Agree with Ray, We will likely replace with Cooper Discoverer HT3 LT225/75R16 if they are still available when we are due. We will likely replace our original tires next Spring. Our current set has served us well.1 point
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I had ours out upon a deep clean when we first purchased our older used hull. Sprayed them with a hose, fine mist setting thoroughly. Then I used compressed air mainly in the corners. Let them sit in the sun (think sunny day task) and later just snapped them in place. They are as clean as could be!1 point
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That is scary wiring that the tech removed, BTW the wires should be run along the back side of the axle tubes, not the top or front. That way errant stones won’t cut or crush your pretty new wires. I personally would install split loom over them, but that is a personal choice. I bet the brakes work great now. John Davies Spokane WA1 point
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Same thing happened with our first trailer. The wires were actually folded inside the axle tube and chafed until they shorted. Dumb design. Same repair. Never had another problem.1 point
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Don, thanks for the suggestions. I replaced the 7pin connector, my RV guy checked it when I took it in. Dielectric grease applied. The 7pin fits and is secured by the cover. The Ram dealer checked the controller. The brakes don’t work when the message is on. I haven’t had the message come up when stationary, so I can’t tell if lights are affected. Wiggling the 7pin does nothing. I’m going to crawl under the trailer in the morning (when it’s not 100+ degrees) to “explore”. Mike1 point
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When the brake pads on my 2008 Tundra got thin, the "Brake" warning light on the dash started to light up intermittently. Like you, I knew the pads were near the end of their useful life because I check them when rotating tires. But, I thought the pads still had some life left, so I didn't immediately replace them. The brakes continued to feel solid, so the light made me wonder if there was another issue with the braking system. When I finally got around to replacing the pads on the 2008 Tundra, the "Brake" warning light went out. Lesson learned: when the light comes on, even intermittently, replace the pads (or in case of Oliver brakes, the shoes) sooner rather than later. I concluded the Tundra must have a sensor that activates the warning light when any of the pads get too thin. Please post what you learn after your Oliver brake shoes are renewed.1 point
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I've had them come loose but not fall off as yours did. After tightening those three or four times I re-assembled them with a couple of drops of Locktite (blue) on each bolt. They have not come loose since. Bill p.s. be careful to not overtighten and see if you can find that washer. The plastic can crack if you overtighten.1 point
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