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Thanks to @AlbertNTerri I was able to field repair the truma unit. Their note described the specific burner feed line that was loose. I removed the burner assembly and found the main connection inside the burner was loose. The connection is the brass fitting in the pix. That connection was loose, not even hand tight. I tightened it back to spec and checked all wiring for any burns and they were all ok. IMG_7603.mov Tested gas pressure and it was correct. Cleaned soot from burner Assembly and reinstalled burner. Checked for gas leaks then lit off the Truma. No more whoosh/boom. This was made possible because an Oliver forum person posted the repair steps that a Truma tech did to repair their unit. I asked Jason to let truma know about this unit failure, and suggest they send out a service note on this topic. I ask those going to the rally to point out this issue to Truma Reps at the event. I will submit this as a new incident NHTSA as it was dangerous. Unit info: Model Serial No: DLE 60G 32123091 direct vent automatic instantaneous water heater Regards, Craig Short Hull 505

Update: it's an Atwood and this YouTube video seems to have done the trick: It was in John E Davies' thread, so many thanks to @rideandfly! Following the video, I knelt in the cold rain and removed the burner assembly. I found that the igniter electrode was arcing to the burner tube instead of the negative rod, so I bent the negative rod closer until I got a big arc there and reassembled. The furnace fired right up this time, but wouldn't keep running, as if there was a problem with the thermocouple, too. Defeated, wet, and tired I gave up and we retreated to a hotel for the night. After checking in to the hotel we returned to Eggcelsior to get clothes, toiletries, etc. for the night and, just for the heck of it, I turned the furnace on again. The sucker lit up and stayed lit! Maybe something got wet during disassembly in the rain? Maybe there was a lot of air in the gas line? Don't know. By this point, not wanting another middle of the night surprise, we decided to just go to the very nice hotel and let the trailer sit there alone and think about the way it was behaving. If it's still warm when we return in the morning I'll call it fixed. (Incidentally, if you've never been to Jim Thorpe, PA, it's worth a trip. I'll post something in our blog later.)

We are staying at the Meriweather B&B tonight while we get some work done at Oliver. We checked in an hour ago, it’s really a pleasant surprise. Melisa was very accommodating and said she loves it when Oliver owners stay here. Very clean. There’s a downstairs suite and an upstairs suite. We’re upstairs, big bedroom, separate sitting area/TV, big bath and a kitchen area. We highly recommend it! Mike

John, Starting 2017 Atwood is sold under the Dometic brand. https://www.dometic.com/en-us/outdoor/lp/rebranded-atwood Bill

Hull #85 2015 LE 2. In August 2018 we had to take our Oliver back to the factory because three welds on the rear bumper failed. The factory replaced the rear bumper at that time, added some gussets on the frame and repaired welds that needed attention. One of the cross beam welds does currently have a small crack. Definitely something to monitor.

Following up now. No bikes, obviously. Tim

Another great place is Canal Campground, COE. Great water views, and lots of barge traffic. Just off I-24 at Grand Rivers.

As the flexible solar module technology progresses - I'm thinking flex modules that contour to the roof lines would look cooler than the flat modules we have now. It would be nice to have 400-600watts up there mounted in a "stealthy" fashion...

One of the former owners sold his Oliver, bought a Super-C and a Jeep to pull behind it, sold that and ordered an LV. It took nearly two years to get it and cost around $500k. They require you to have a one ton truck before they will sell you one. His weighed 18,000 pounds.

Here we are at the Oliver campground. Site 3. Nobody here. It’s peaceful anyway….

Just and FYI if anyone needs to replace their locking door handle. https://www.costco.com/compact-rvlock-keyless-entry-handle.product.4000235045.html

Boy! These units were even pretty Way back then. Good design never goes out of style! Bill

We use a 3.2K grain softener. Fits in the basement standing up. Lightweight. Check Amazon, we got it probably 6 years ago. Mike

We almost always leave home with a full fresh tank and will continue to do so, unless we are heading straight to a full hookup campsite. It's not that heavy. Full at about 250 LBS across that wide area is not a concern.

Last week before we picked up it was suggested that a "Where's Ollie" thread might be good for folks to post pictures of where they've been, maybe with a few comments about the location. I'll get it going.... This is Hillman Ferry State Park in KY at Land Between the Lakes. Nice campground, with lots of lake water activities. You can get a site right on the lake to fish from!

TBOM (The Boss Of Me, also known as The Bride) and I were strongly considering buying a new Oliver, and reached out to the dealer here in Oregon. In addition to finding them pleasant and helpful folks, I was shocked at what I considered to be a very good deal on a new LE II. I may be kicking myself for not purchasing, but I couldn’t justify spending the money. Especially since we like our 2018 LE II so much. If you’re thinking about upgrading, now might be the time.

Sorry, 2023 Legacy Elite II Hull #1447

It would be helpful if you listed your hull #, model and year in your signature line. That way we would know a little better just exactly how to answer your questions. Bill

Lived in Sandy, UT for 8 years and loved all the wide open spaces. Their National and State Parks are amazing! Super glad you are having a great trip. With a 23 year old diesel, I suspect you are seeing some age related issues. When newer those diesel 2500 trucks would pull loads a lot heavier up just about anything and not overheat. Suggestions: A transmission cooler upgrade. I would replace the thermostat if it is also OEM or even just 10 years old. They can corrode/wear out and then not open fully when needed with older age. If still a problem, consider having your radiator "boiled out with chemical" professionally done. Question: What is this on the roof of your truck? John

Aren't we all?😁 There just has to be somewhere else to buy that replacement part! Many times the cost via the Oliver Service department isn't bad. Bill

It's really a piece of cake to replace - just can't figure why RVLock doesn't use the heavy-duty replacement as OEM for the lock set to begin with???

wow, thanks for all the conversation regarding "sagging crossbeams". We have been off the grid and it's raining. I will get some images of the under-side of my frame posted and count the crossbeams when I'm in a dry clean place get on the ground. I discovered the beams were sagging when I was making a drilling template for installing a mid-trailer mud-flap per John Davies design. I clamped my drilling template (1" wide flat bar of aluminum) to the crossbeam in front of the axle and it clearly was sagging..

BTW, the link @MAX Burner supplied for a replacement door on AMzon, currently has a “Like New” one for $90 less. Like new on Amazon means the packaging has been breached!

Another tennis-loving Oliver owner here. Sounds great! I'll take a trip that includes Jack Sock and Cedar Breaks anytime! Saw both in 2023 - one at the Dallas Open and one in October, right before they closed for the winter season. It's beautiful up there for sure.

We had a similar issue one time. [While on the road] We called Mike in service. He had us hookup a fresh water hose to the boondocking port and run briefly. That took care of the problem. Thanks Mike!

Nice, Mike. Enjoy it. Planning to be there Wednesday PM with the Knuckleheads for some OTT time... See y'all at the rally - safe travels, amigo!

Since you just had it in for service, you know cause. I believe there are 4 short screws with shoulders so to provide spacing to not damage the cover. Power tools OK to remove quickly, but these must be installed by hand. Reason why I rarely contract maintenance work. “If it needs to be done right…” Amazing the cover did not break into pieces. I’d say the service co owes you a new cover installed. Such a shame since AC service on these units really comes down to compressed air or a hose rinse on the condenser coils. Not much more can be done on a factory sealed AC unit. Towing your Oliver in a good rain storm will do about the same thing.

Beautiful!

Steve, how'd y'all like the thickness of the bronze bushings and the larger diameter of the Alcan eyelets? You've got the OEM 5-packs, if I'm remembering correctly (but I've slept a few times since we chatted about it), right? Just curious, were the Alcans heavier with the longer 2nd spring than your OEMs? D and I look forward to sharing more war stories with you and Tali next week - OBTW: I've informed the Knuckleheads that they'll be playing with Rocky soon! WOOF! Travel safe, amigo...

Tali and I have been around and under the trailer all day installing the new Alcan springs. While under there, I counted eight cross members behind the rear axle with one doubled.

I agree that the solar panel is a real drag.

No, but originally there were only four. Like mine, the belly behind the axles started to sag and more were added. Yours was likely repaired prior to your acquisition. You are correct that the frame's were shorter and the bumpers were almost flush with the back of the hull when the first two 22 footers were built in 2008-2009. They were likely done this way because that's the way the 17 foot Elite rear storage area had been designed. In 2014, after the hiatus, the decision was made to lengthen the frame on both the models. This was done for looks and since there was no other fiberglass travel trailer this big it made for good marketing. The length of a travel trailer is defined by the distance from the tip of the hitch to the back of the bumper, so the 17 foot Elite became 18.5 feet long and the 22 footer became 23.5 feet long and was finally given an official name, becoming the Elite II. Even though the rear of the frame was lengthened by 1.5 feet the number of cross members remained the same as before. This 22 foot trailer were built during late 2008 and early 2009 although it was not sold right away. Another unit was built for Jim Oliver and it was completed. He named it "The beast". A third unit was planned but the company decided to shutter the trailer line and it was never started. Here are a few construction pictures taken during that time period. Some were taken by myself and some by Robert Partee, the sales manager at the time. Here you can plainly see the frame rails extending far beyond the rear of the body and the cross members welded below the belly.

I received the parts box from the Oliver Service guys/gal about 7pm last night. Below are some pics of what was in the box. Note that the U-bolts and appropriate washers and nuts are nice stainless steel. Here are the measurements: two - stainless steel U-bolts with associated hardware measuring - 8"x3 3/4" x 3/8" two painted steel plates measuring - 6 1/8" x 2" x 1/8" one dense rubber pad measuring - 10" x 2" x 3/8" one dense rubber pad measuring - 43" x 2" x 1/4" Bill

To Oliver Owners and Valued Customers, As committed to several weeks ago, the Oliver Travel Trailers business owners and leadership team have discussed at length internally, with our dealer partners, as well as with Oliver owners and potential customers, the subject of continuing to offer service here in Hohenwald, TN. Oliver Travel Trailers has decided to leave our service facility fully operational for the foreseeable future. Oliver Travel Trailers remains committed to supporting and training our dealer network to provide exceptional opportunities to purchase and get an Oliver serviced as close to home as possible. The Oliver sales and service team remains available to assist with any needs or questions that you may have. Once again, Oliver Travel Trailers truly values the relationships we have with our owners, potential customers, and business partners. Thank you for the feedback and continued support. I look forward to seeing many of you at the Oliver Owner’s Rally in May. Best, Rodney Lomax Director of Operations Oliver Travel Trailers Sales & Service

Gotta be able to pull it with my truck....

Jim Oliver told me personally that the frame was designed to handle up to 3X the GVWR. He quoted the number at 21K pounds. I do know that the number of rear cross members is now twice those of the three 22 footers that were built in 2010 (that was what the Elite II’s were called back then.)

Our trip has been one of weather extremes, from the high 90s 10 days ago in S NV to a high of 63 in Cedar City Utah yesterday. We spent the night at a BLM site (free dispersed camping), the Parowan Gap Petroglyphs: Utah Petroglyphs | Parowan Gap | Visit Utah. The low overnight was 28 and now that it's 10:30 AM it's 50 and feels very warm in the sun (altitude 5600 FT). What a difference a day makes, not only in temperatures, but the contrast between a busy state park and the open BLM. Here our closest neighbors, 4 of them are a minimum of 300 yards away. We met two great couples at Snow Canyon, and then we heard complaining from some not-happy campers. A Class-A with Florida plates, parked in a narrow site like ours a couple spaces down. Slides open on both sides, one was nearly touching the shade structure and the other was hanging over the shared hookups. Common S FL dress, where the couple came out in wool hats and winter coats, since it was only 70 out! The Oregon couple next to them in the Sprinter Class-B had much to say about the space they were taking and running their basement HVAC all day and night, so they cranked up their stereo! Chris and I looked at each other thinking yep, it's time to leave! We’re wearing shorts of course. Gave Charley a bath on our way out that morning, by backing the truck bed right to the Oliver outdoor shower. Better washing the dog at a good height. We hitched up, filled fresh, dumped the tanks, and I used the campground shower myself after everything else was done. And we headed north, SR-18 north, to SR-56 east to SR-130 north, a very nice route avoiding I-15. This location will be great for the next few days since it's warming up again. We're also 45 minutes to Cedar Breaks National Monument which is the one great SW-Utah park that we have not yet visited. The mountain we can see from our campsite is Brian Head Peak (11,307 FT).

Exactly right, John. Our's front cross beam has the same gap with what looks like a rubber gasket between the aluminum and the fiberglass hull...FYI

As they say, "you win some and lose some." I believe it was all the changes we went through on our trip getting here, but simply stated, we played like cr@p! We started the day losing but, in the end, we won big and had a great time at the tournament! We're thinking next year we'll just come to watch. They had a very short format for us amateur players. No time to get truly warmed up and play well. Long story short, we watched 4 great matches courtside. The best was a with an ATP tennis pro we have followed since he first turned pro as a teenager in 2011. Jack Sock was a recent great US tennis player. His highest ATP world ranking was #2 in doubles, #8 in singles, and he medaled in the 2016 Olympics for the US. He retired from tennis last year and he says his second career in pickleball will be all about having fun! What a great player, humble/polite guy (always takes his hat off when shaking hands at the end of a match) and crowd favorite as he kids with the crowd regularly. The pics will tell the story, but after catching an out ball, and a free Selkirk hat, Chris snapped the picture of me and Jack!

And did Oliver account for an opposite force when we take our trailers to the southern hemisphere. A lot of us want to explore Australia with our trailers and we need to know how Oliver designed the frame. 😂🤣 John

Following is rabbit hole conjecture on my part for your amusement: The G-forces on loads behind the center point of the twin axles are lineally amplified by the lever arm distance. It therefore is good design to have more structural supports behind the axles than in front of them as reported. As the EZ Flex raises and lowers the axles based upon up/down road bumps/holes/trenches, it could also be adding additional loads to the areas in front and behind the axle center points. If those are in-phase with the road induced G-forces, the structural member loadings would be increased beyond that mentioned above.

Was your Ollie a LE2 prototype? Wonder if the older Legacy Elites had the same 1X2 tube crossmembers.

That downward sag is about the same as on my Oliver too and as others have pointed out these are C channel not L channel as I previously referred to. Regardless the H2O heater surely can't weigh so much with only 6 gallons of water and maybe another 20 lbs for the actual heater itself. Mystery to me why so much more structure in this one area and yet so many still break. Still nothing from Tech support.

Just my opinion, Agree, too much concentrated stress on the doubled cross-member welds. Load needs to be distributed to additional cross-members (one way to do it), especially for those doing overland type camping. We probably have the lightest LE2 with ready to camp weights of 4900 to 4950 pounds running under 50psi in the tires with 99% of travel on paved roads and empty water tanks. We still had a weld to crack. I am not a mechanical engineer, just lots of experience in industrial machine rebuild and manufacture, before retirement.

So, the welder who told you to never haul your Elite II with a full tank of water was wrong, since the fresh water tank is forward of the broken welds?

Another update for those interested. Heard back from tech support on my ticket this morning asking for photos which I forgot to initially send. Uploaded those, received a quick reply that all info would be forwarded to the higher up engineering folks and that the ticket would be closed. Not much really to go on, oh well. In the meantime, after considering another post earlier on, apologies don't recall who posted it, but they are correct the fresh water tanks are quite a bit further forward than this one doubled up L channel supports. Its curious that all of the people who have had these weld breaks are at the same place, same brace and yet have nothing to do (directly) with the support of the heaviest item the water tank. Why did they not use a square tube, instead of stitch welding two L brackets? Why is there so much apparent weight distributed at this one point? I'm baffled. Thanks

The added piece of channel is only stitch welded (doubled) onto the channel welded to the mainframe on our Ollie. The doubled piece could be removed by cutting the stitch welds off with a 4" grinder. One side is stitch welded on the bottom and the other side is stitch welded on the top to the other channel. To give more strength additional cross-members could be welded on (added) in different areas, if needed. This has me wondering why the original cross-member was doubled when all others were not. I have not inspected the campers with new stye frame like Patriot's, but guessing none of their cross-members were doubled. Hope someone will let us know that has the new style frame without telescoping hitch tube.

Was just thinking... Maybe a textured fabric-backed vinyl wallpaper would work even better than formica would? Much easier to fit to the door and might even look original if you could find a similar texture.

Another suggestion... What caused this? I would say it's the door banging in the wind! If you take time and money to replace or rebuild this door, spend another few bucks to eliminate the cause: Amazon.com: Lippert RV Entry Door Friction Hinge Kit for 5th Wheel, Travel Trailer and Motorhome Pack of 2 : Automotive

Your profile shows a 2017. Even so, I'd open a service ticket. Those cracks look like the door was let go in wind, and stressed, to me. White duct tape will seal it for now. I'd guess a new door is in order. Imo.