Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 24, 2022 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2022 18 hours ago, Jps190 said: I removed with an auto trim removal tool. One of my friends in the boat business carries the yellow nylon set from harbor freight in his car. He swears by them. 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jps190 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 4/14/2019 at 3:56 PM, John E Davies said: The folks that assemble these trailers do not always think about drainage. The cabin steps trap lots of water when folded and need some holes. My suggestion before you remove the rubber seal is to drill a couple of 1/4” or larger drain holes as indicated. They need to be large enough so that tree droppings won’t plug them up. In winter that may not be enough. If you store it outside the seal should be removed entirely or you will get a large ice dam. Since I started this thread I have had no regrets about taking it off. Well, one regret. The tech who installed it used a permanent blue ink pen to lay out some guide lines and they won’t come off! Have you alerted the factory about this issue? It is not something minor and they need to know. John Davies Spokane WA Looks like they fixed that issue on my 2021. 3 John and Kim 2021 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6L Duramax 11350 GVWR 3048lb Payload 2021 Oliver Elite II. Hull #887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBistro Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, topgun2 said: Since you are still under warranty, I'd email, call or submit a Service ticket and see what they recommend for reattaching that seal. Bill I submitted a ticket yesterday and Jason's response was to try to reattach with double sided tape. If that failed, they would replace. I supposed that means they would have a local shop replace it? mb 1 MaryBeth Boulder, CO 2022 Elite II #953 TV: 2021 Ford Expedition Max Platinum, Max Tow Package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted March 24, 2022 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, VBistro said: I supposed that means they would have a local shop replace it? I'd suppose the same thing and would keep a copy of Jason's reply in my files just in case. Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBistro Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, topgun2 said: I'd suppose the same thing and would keep a copy of Jason's reply in my files just in case. Bill My inclination right now is to remove the street side seal since we will only ever use that side for shade. I do want a gutter/seal on curbside, though, so we'll do our best to fix that. And I will save my email from Jason. mb 3 MaryBeth Boulder, CO 2022 Elite II #953 TV: 2021 Ford Expedition Max Platinum, Max Tow Package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 5:24 PM, VBistro said: I submitted a ticket yesterday and Jason's response was to try to reattach with double sided tape. If that failed, they would replace. I supposed that means they would have a local shop replace it? mb Last May Oliver service replaced our awning seal under warranty and they also drilled out our awning brackets so they drain properly and they now do. The new awning seal was installed just low enough that there is no longer an issue with water puddling and water drains off as it should. When washing the roof of our Oliver I did not see any water puddling along the awning seal or brackets as it just drains off the rear of the trailer as designed. When I wash and detail our Ollie I usually have it a little nose high to facilitate water draining off the roof area. The water also drains off when the Ollie is level. I am fine with how the new seal works now. Regular washing keeps the seal and roof area nice and clean. 1 5 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “XPLOR” TV 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Retro upgrades - Truma Aventa 13.5 AC, Alcan 5 leaf pack, Alcan HD shackles & HD wet bolts, 5200lb axles. XPEL 10 mil PPF front both front corners, 30 lb LP tanks, Sea Biscuit Front Cargo Storage box. North Carolina 🇺🇸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 5:51 PM, Patriot said: Last May Oliver service replaced our awning seal under warranty and they also drilled out our awning brackets so they drain properly and they now do. The new awning seal was installed just low enough that there is no longer an issue with water puddling and water drains off as it should. When washing the roof of our Oliver I did not see any water puddling along the awning seal or brackets as it just drains off the rear of the trailer as designed. When I wash and detail our Ollie I usually have it a little nose high to facilitate water draining off the roof area. The water also drains off when the Ollie is level. I am fine with how the new seal works now. Regular washing keeps the seal and roof area nice and clean. At the rally last month, I noted the demo trailer had the weather stripping applied about 4 or 5 inches below the brackets vice right up against them. It looked really nice and you can see where the collected water and debris issue is mitigated. I got the product information from them and will be ordering the same weather stripping to replace on both awnings on my 2018. Always hated the stained, brown water running down the corners. I didn't see any other trailers modified the way but I liked what I saw. 5 2018 Elite II, Hull #414 (the very last 2018 produced). Trailer name "2 HOBOS" . 2018 F250 4X4 Crew Cab, 6.7L diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rhett Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 9/1/2017 at 2:14 PM, Mike and Carol said: I still have mine and have thought about removing it. I'm not sure it does much good. It does collect debris and is hard to clean. Will be interested in what others have experienced. Mike I'm in the process of taking mine off now. It has deteriorated badly and I've pulled off about 10" from the rear and there is glue still on the trailer. Looks like I'm going to have a time of it. I will also take off the awning completely as a little wind came up in TN and broke my mid-support plastic on the end of it and bent the opening cover of the awning. Maybe I can fix it with a rubber hammer as it's not too bad, maybe now. Hope I can just by the parts I need. I've spent too much money on other things as of late. 1 J-Rhett Oliver Legacy Elite II (Irog) 1995 Ford F-250 x4 Turbo Diesel Trek Bikes, Hobie Cat Kayak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, J-Rhett said: I'm in the process of taking mine off now. It has deteriorated badly and I've pulled off about 10" from the rear and there is glue still on the trailer. 3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner, Quart, 08984 If you have a local Automotive Paint supply store, buy it there, I pay about $14 per quart locally. It is voodoo magic for stuff like this, and for road tar on the gelcoat or your TV. Wear gloves and have some ventilation,, it has all sorts of unpleasant solvents. It won’t hurt gelcoat or paint but it does completely strip off the wax. Body shops use it a lot for prepping the paint. John Davies Spokane WA 1 3 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank C Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 For anyone removing the awning seal adhesive or other “sticky stuff” from the hull, here’s a tool I’ve found very useful on the Oliver for removing caulk or adhesive without damaging the gel-coat. Plastic razor blade scrapers. Gets most of the stuff off, then final cleanup with isopropyl alcohol or automotive wax/tar remover. Limited-time deal: Plastic Razor Blade Scraper, 2PCS Scraper Tool with 60PCS Plastic Blades, Cleaning Scraper Remover for Stickers, Decals, Adhesive, Labels, Paint, Glass, Car, Window, Stove Top, Caulk, No Scratches https://a.co/d/4bf3egM 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertNTerri Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I saw someone recommend those plastic "razors" a couple of months ago and bought one on amazon. It comes with about 100 blades and it was only about $12, WOW, what a great product. I used it to remove the caulking around the access panel on the bathroom vanity and it worked better than anything I've ever used in the past to remove silicone caulk with no worries about damaging the gel coat. I highly recommend it! albert 4 Albert & Terri Sterns Paonia, Colorado Elite II Hull #1125 Standard Floorplan / 2017 Ford F250 gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I removed mine the day it came home from the factory, due note it does remove with no problem as it was new and just installed. Older ones will most likely need some help as the sticky attaching glue will be harder to get off. I used a commercial product sold at body shop supply stores, it's runs $25.00 per gal, but boy does it remove grease, wax, glues, etc., this product can soften paint in some cases, so testing with it is always recommended, ok for fiberglass. Do not go looking for this product at Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, etc., they don't have it. its professionally sold only. The product I use is, 5900 5 Star Xtreme. https://5starxtreme.com/cleaners/5900-maxx-solv-wax-and-grease-remover I paint a lot of models, plastic and metal, I use it as a cleaner before I paint. trainman 2 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dehne Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 I removed them 8 months after we got Hull #901. Really helped eliminate the black streaks where it wasn’t completely attached to the fiberglass, Trailer looks nicer without them and I do believe that on very hot and sunny days it helps ventilation under the awning to remove the heat but it is hard to tell. 1 John & Chris Dehne Manchester, MD. 2021 Elite II twin Hull# 901 “Fiberbeergrass” 2021 Ram 2500 Cummins 4x4 Life is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 It's apparent there are two 'camps' of opinion on removing the awning seal. I, for one, make a living space out of the shade and invariably it will rain when I camp, so keeping that area dry is a high priority. I really like to keep runoff to a minimum and have found the seal to be pretty darn effective! Today, I replaced my deteriorated and flaking seal with a new 1" slide out seal. The leftover adhesive from the old was pretty easy to remove with 'Spray Nine' a cloth and a plastic razor blade. No heavy duty removers needed. It took maybe 30 minutes. My take is that you may have to replace it every five years or so, and I'm ok with that. Here's to DRY camping! 4 2 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted July 26, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, csevel said: Here's to DRY camping I'm with you If and when our old seal dies, we'll replace it with same. In the east, we often can leave our manual awnings out, pitched, and get a nice patio in soft rains and our typically lighter winds. I'm on the "porch " now. Soft rain. No wind. It's pretty sweet.. All our trailers live big,, on the outside. 2 2 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieman Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 We have left our awning seal installed for same reasons. It rains often in the Southeast, daily this time of year. My trailer has drain channels in the awning brackets, so not too much stuff collects up there. I get up top periodically to clean the solar panels anyway, so no problem cleaning the ditch created by the awning. The new J-channel strip Oliver is using now looks like it might be an improvement. I look forward to reading some feedback on how well it works. 3 “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted July 26, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mike D. said: The new J-channel strip Oliver is using now looks like it might be an improvement. I look forward to reading some feedback on how well it works. This interest me as well. I will be interested in how folks like it. Mike 2 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csevel Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mike and Carol said: This interest me as well. I will be interested in how folks like it. Mike I debated this pretty long.. came to the conclusion that I didn't want to clean another channel like the window gutters. I like the dam effect of the style I have. The rain seems to just channel to each end of the awning. 6 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 5.7L V8 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Hull #184 ~ "ILOVHER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 6:29 PM, Frank C said: For anyone removing the awning seal adhesive or other “sticky stuff” from the hull, here’s a tool I’ve found very useful on the Oliver for removing caulk or adhesive without damaging the gel-coat. Plastic razor blade scrapers. Gets most of the stuff off, then final cleanup with isopropyl alcohol or automotive wax/tar remover. Limited-time deal: Plastic Razor Blade Scraper, 2PCS Scraper Tool with 60PCS Plastic Blades, Cleaning Scraper Remover for Stickers, Decals, Adhesive, Labels, Paint, Glass, Car, Window, Stove Top, Caulk, No Scratches https://a.co/d/4bf3egM I purchased a set. Thanks for the heads-up. 2 2018 Elite II, Hull #414 (the very last 2018 produced). Trailer name "2 HOBOS" . 2018 F250 4X4 Crew Cab, 6.7L diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skalywag Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I just removed the awning seal on our 2017 LE1 and it had deteriorated to where it was no longer effective. I was able to really clean that area for the first time while I was washing and waxing her. I plan to forgo replacing it and apply an over the window rain gutter. Amen. 3 Legacy Elite I #240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted October 7 Moderators Share Posted October 7 4 hours ago, skalywag said: I just removed the awning seal on our 2017 LE1 and it had deteriorated to where it was no longer effective. I was able to really clean that area for the first time while I was washing and waxing her. I plan to forgo replacing it and apply an over the window rain gutter. Amen. That’s what I did four years ago. I don’t regret the decision! 3 Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
routlaw Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 hours ago, skalywag said: I just removed the awning seal on our 2017 LE1 and it had deteriorated to where it was no longer effective. I was able to really clean that area for the first time while I was washing and waxing her. I plan to forgo replacing it and apply an over the window rain gutter. Amen. Just did this myself earlier in the summer. Mine was also pretty much dry rotted and ugly. It's a job make no mistake. Have yet to install rain gutters over the windows though, probably should do that soon. 3 Legacy Elite II #70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainman198 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Pulled mine off last week. Disgusting holder of all things gross. Came off in two pieces while only pulling by hand. Residual adhesive came off easily using plastic razor blades. Whole job took under 30 mins. Good riddance! 4 2021 Elite II, Hull# 898 2018 Toyota Tundra, 2003 Dodge Ram 3500 5.9l SRW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
routlaw Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 hours ago, Mountainman198 said: Pulled mine off last week. Disgusting holder of all things gross. Came off in two pieces while only pulling by hand. Residual adhesive came off easily using plastic razor blades. Whole job took under 30 mins. Good riddance! Wow, lucky man. Mine was a bit messier and more difficult than that. Legacy Elite II #70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd1923 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) I'm assuming mine was removed by previous owner, replaced with a nice drip edge. Can somebody confirm who knows the OEM "rain seal?" Edited October 9 by jd1923 2 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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