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The most fool proof, easiest, least expensive way to monitor propane tank levels is to simply leave one tank's valve closed. When the cooktop will not light then switch to the other tank and get the first tank refilled. 😇 Bill

Waiting another year for the 2023 model will only cost you more money (and time). Before making that decision, check with sales to see if you could special order the quieter AC unit for the 2022 model year.

Wow. Interesting. Now we're wondering if we should pull back and wait for the 2023 model. 🤔 The (presumably Truma) A/C would be great. Was hoping they might switch to those during the 2022 model run, but that survey makes me think it won't be this year after all. Don't know about the bigger fridge. My wife thinks the current 4.5 cf fridge will be ok for the two of us, I think it's a little small. Who knows what the 2023 prices might look like, though...

You can write anything you want in the Comments section near the bottom.. https://olivertraveltrailers.com/surveys/future-model-features-and-options EDIT, this is for current owners, not the general public. John Davies Spokane WA

Example pix in survey. 1) One concern we shared is that for shorter people that puts the Conv/uW too high for safely taking out hot foods. 2) We would be fine with an under counter compressor fridge as it has little more cu ft than the existing fridge. 3) We carry a ARB ac/dc compressor chest fridge in the back of our truck for extra space and it’s been a great combo on our 7 month road trip. 4) As to the quieter a/c would be great in hot locations. Doubt if we would upgrade immediately, long way to Hohenwald from WA.

I'm all for the a quieter AC! It would probably be 4 years before I could make a trip back east, if they did offer it as a upgrade. Now if they offered an AC with all of the custom mods to retro fit current Olivers and would ship it to me, I would do the install.

So, this prompted an earnest discussion with DW tonight. Specifically, would we want to trade that kitchen cabinet space for the bigger fridge? In the end, probably not. We think that the current 4.5 cf will be enough for the two of us and cabinet storage is always precious. But that Truma A/C? That's another story. I'd give my eye teeth to have one of those on our trailer when we take delivery in August.

One positive thing is they are willing to retrofit older trailers with the Truma unit. Unfortunately the fridge upgrade will be long after ours is delivered.

Well, I'm interested. I didn't get the email, so thanks, @John E Davies Then again, most Oliver communications go to my husband's email.. I'll look. Would we like a quiet ac? At what cost increment, for those of us who rarely use ac?

First, I stand corrected. The Fairview regulators operate as described, which may explain why the BTU capacity is reduced once an auto changeover occurs and why the lever must be pointed toward the active tank before the opposite one can be disconnected. If the lever has to be manually switched to regain full BTU capability, and shut off backflow to the other port, it seems to me the Fairview regulator is more semi-automatic in operation. The BTU reduction could explain some of the reported propane delivery problems at low temperature and/or high altitude. I routinely experience both and never had a problem prior to replacing my original Fairview. But then, I generally start looking for a refill before an auto changeover happens. It's somewhat moot now but in response to Trainman's question: Generally the lever would be moved after the reserve tank is opened. The sequence may not matter but the regulator relies on pressure differential in determining when to switchover. A sudden surge from opening the tank valve may fool it, causing an unnecessary and undesirable switchover.

I sure like the Cummins diesel in my Ram 2500. Makes towing so much easier than with my previous gas V8’s. I also get better gas mileage, both towing and not towing. Mike

Never have tried the neutral position because the Fairview instructions do not mention that setting. Mossey Fairview LP Gas Regulator.pdf

The question fridge is only 2 way, we use the 3 way features all the time. Dc underway, AC at CG, propane off the grid. Current refrigerator size is adequate for our needs, as long as we rotate in beverage needs each night for the following day. Better half says micro too high for anyone to safely use. Wouldn't want to lose cabinet space either...

I’ve been using both my hand and recently my laser temp reader. I pour a cup of hot water on the tank and scan down the side until the temp drops and stays solid. Works well.

Here's another unknown: We know the Dometic with soft start will run (briefly) off the lithiums or off a 2k generator. Haven't heard heard yet whether there's a soft start for the Truma (or of it needs one).

Us too 🙂

I think users have 24 hours to delete or change a post. After that, a moderator can do it. If you need something done, just PM one of us and we can make the change. Mike

Very fool proof. It's what we have done for years too.

My guess is they might do a Truma package upgrade…meaning the AC, tankless water heater, and maybe a new Truma furnace (wag). Something like this (or just the AC) might be an upgrade above what the price increase is for the 2023 model year. IMO I wouldn’t wait if you’re only talking a couple of months later to order.

It’s worked well for me.

I'm definitly interested in the advancement of electirc vehicles including trucks but I'm not seeing the cost/benefit/capability equation for tow vehicles in the near term. I will be watching and cheering for development while I continue to drive my 2021GM 3.0L diesel 1/2-ton pickup for awhile. I have been extremely happy with it so far including the 30mpg highway (unloaded) and 16-20mpg towing my LEII. Most new vehicles have been in short supply/high demand but I understand Silverado/Sierra/Tahoe/Suburbans with the 3.0 Duramax Diesel have to be custom-ordered or are sold before they even arrive at the dealer. The demand is there and the combo of capability/range/value/price will be hard for electirc to match for a good number of years (for a tow vehicle). Passenger cars and light SUVs are another story though...

I got and took survey. I think footprint of current fridge would be fine if compressor model. As for AC would definitely consider upgrade.

I got the email. Did the survey. Interesting picture of the Elite II with a big fridge.

And then there is the Electric Airstream to go with your electric truck... https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/airstream-new-electric-trailer-estream-1234659272/ Still, 300 mile range for the Ford truck and the trailer isn't enough.

Add to this discussion the impact of government regulation with and without extensions of deadlines for various things like MPG and emissions. I've read that the demise of the Tundra's famous V-8 was due primarily to efforts by Toyota to get their line of vehicles at or under proposed emissions standards. Bill

At initial hook up, whichever regulator input is pressurized first becomes the "active" side. Then, when the selector is moved to the center (auto) position, the other input becomes the "reserve" side. When pressure on the active side tank drops to a predetermined level, the auto changeover valve will switch to the reserve side tank. Whenever one of the tanks is removed for refilling, the selector should first be moved from auto to the tank that will remain in use. After the refilled tank is put back in service, it will become the reserve once the selector lever is moved back to the auto position.

I just use my hand to sense the temp difference between gas and liquid. Hasnt let me down yet. Also have a ir light temp guage which I would think would work too.

I’ve been using a similar device to the one Mossey featured above, but made by Dometic. It is easy to use and provides an accurate assessment of the tank levels. Regardless of the brand, each seem to be comparable in function and pricing.

We have moved on from Florida. We had lots of stops as we worked our way north and west. A very cool Harvest Host stop in Tallahassee, a collectible car museum. Wow, the cars, motor cycles, outboard motors and other memorabilia was amazing. They had Batmobiles. Yes 3 of them! It is loud at night as it is on a busy road at the junction of I 10. There were 6 other campers parked with us spread out on a large grassy area. It was definitely worth the stop. Our last Florida stop was Fort Pickens National Seashore near Pensacola Beach. The campground is nothing special but the fort and seashore was amazing. You are on a road driving miles in the dunes along the gulf. It is like you are on the moon! If you go try to get loop A. We met some nice folks in that park. We also spent 4 nights at Dauphin Island Alabama. We are finishing up a week in New Orleans. We splurged and are staying at French Quarter RV Resort. The park is a 5 minute walk to the French Quarter. Great location and they keep the bathrooms and laundry room very clean. It is located adjacent to I 10 so it can be noisy. The park is fenced in with a gate. We feel safe. The park is all pavers with some grass. Lots of big rigs. They also have a hot tub and pool. We haven't tried these as it is cold but some campers are in the hot tub most evenings. You walk by a police station on the way to the quarter. Beyond the usual quarter attractions, we have done a swamp tour, a walking tour of the Garden District and today the WW II museum. Wow we were there for 6 hours today. I wish every child could visit this museum. I would hope the magnitude of what transpired is not lost. We learned a lot. Very impactful. Saturday we start toward Austin Texas. It has been cold here at night. Low 30s tonight. We will get to Austin on Sunday.

They accept absolutely no responsibility!

I haven't installed my system yet, but will soon, I like the app option. Rather than using my iPhone, I will use the iPad Mini 2 that I installed in place of the Zamp solar controller. I can view two apps simultaneously, for example Garmin Earthmate (to send text messages through my inReach communicator) and the Victron Connect battery monitor app. . I will post a new thread about the Mopeka sensors, eventually. John Davies Spokane WA

You should fill the tanks, 1/2 to 3/4, and work from them. Disconnect the hose before the temperature drops below 30. Keep propane heat on a setting that's comfy for you. For us, at night, sleeping, it's around 55 to 60. Daytime, 65 to 68. We have nice quilts. I don't love sleeping bags, but others do. Temps forecast for Hohenwald aren't really too bad. It's the rain and freezing temps at night, and resulting black ice (invisible) that you need to watch for. Don't try to travel early in the day, imo. Wait til the sun melts the ice. Probably 11 to 1. Especially, be careful in shaded areas, and any bridges. They ice earlier, and it lasts longer. I grew up in southern Minnesota. Same crap there, just much longer season, and more frequent icing and snow... Most dangerous times were early season storms. By midwinter, most people had regained awareness, and good driving habits. Not to be counted on in Tennessee or the Carolinas, where this is much more infrequent. Many drivers don't know how to drive in ice and snow, in the south, in my experience. Good news is, it rarely stays cold in middle Tennessee. Wait it out. We've been in Florida a long time, but I still have cold weather clothes. My most important, smart wool socks, in various levels. And long underwear. Cuddleduds and 32 degrees are great in pretty much mild temps, to me. If you don't have those, it's not a big deal. Just know that jeans aren't really warm below 20 degrees or so. I used to wear just a pair of tights,, under jeans, in Minnesota. It worked, til jeans got wet. Wet jeans are miserable. Synthetics, wool, and blends are seriously your friends in crappy rainy/sleety/wintry mix weather.

On the surface, this looks like a good deal. It's only $30 more than on Amazon and you don't have to buy all the fittings and assemble it yourself. However, this is the warranty you get with the Airstream model: "Airstream is selling the Weber Q1200 Gas Grill AS IS, WITH ALL FAULTS. THERE IS NO EXPRESS WARRANTY COVERING THE GRILL; AND, AIRSTREAM DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Airstream also excludes all consequential damages. If you decide to purchase the grill you agree that Ohio law applies regardless of conflicts of law. You also agree that any legal action against must be commenced in state or federal courts sitting in Ohio."

Just got to love that legal disclaimer near the end! Bill

I like the Truma LevelCheck. Link to YouTube video. Mossey

This type of situation always bugs me. By doing the right/safe/heroic thing it ends up costing you more. Kind of reminds me of an engine catastrophic failure in flight. If you do everything perfectly and land without putting a scratch on the plane you’ll probably have to cough up at least 50k to rebuild the engine. However, if you forget to put the gear down or similar the insurance company won’t complain about a 100k repair. I would not close the claim until they agreed to pay the difference between a clean trade and the fire salvage title. I would also exercise that option ASAP on a new tow vehicle.

Sorry to hear of your fire. I, too, had a truck fire 3 years ago when my 2012 Ford F-150 caught fire just as I backed it into the storage unit that we rented at the time in Montana. The fire ended up burning the entire building and destroyed all of the contents that were in it, not only mine but of the other tenants as well. I’m guessing the total losses were around $10 million. Although the cause of the fire was inconclusive, I believe it was related to my truck’s air conditioner blower motor. I also have State Farm insurance, and they were very fair with me in handling my claims, which totaled over 900 items, including an RV, truck, boats, ATV, utility trailer, and numerous personal items, etc. I never retained an attorney, although State Farm had/has retained one on my behalf, and they are handling the multiple lawsuits that resulted from the fire. If you do decide to replace your truck and buy a new one, there are some pretty good deals to be had if you’re not in a hurry and can afford to shop around. For example, one dealer in Iowa is presently offering to sell new Ford trucks ordered from the factory at 3% below dealer invoice, with anticipated delivery times of around 3 months, depending on the model ordered.