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We made it to Dead Horse State Park and enjoyed Cottonwood, Gerome and Sedona. Then a couple of days at Grand Canyon and a night in Williams AZ, our first experience on route 66. Then on to Page Arizona, Horse Shoe Bend, and Lake Powell. Today we arrived in Zion and are staying at Watchman Campground. I forgot when I booked this it was President's Day weekend. This place is jammed. I can't imagine what it is like in the Summer. The entrance to the park was backed up over a mile. We are here for 3 nights. Today was a beautiful 66 degrees and they started running the shuttles on the weekends until Spring yesterday. Unfortunately, the weather is going to turn nasty and very cold. Our plan was to head to Bryce Canyon on Wednesday and work our way toward Moab on March 1st, where we have a week long reservation. The stops we had planned were all parks like Frutia that are not accepting reservations this early. This may turn out to be a blessing!!! Bryce is expected to see night time temps at 10 below on and highs in the teens. We have already done single digits on this trip. I knew this could happen and it did in Carlsbad, NM. We are altering our plans and heading south west to get some warmer weather on Wednesday. We are setting our sites on Lake Mead for a few days before we head to Moab. I have nothing to prove at this stage of my life, I like warm!! We left Maine in the winter to avoid below 0 temps. As capable as Beacon has demonstrated to be, we are going to be moderately warm outside of Las Vegas!!! So we drive an extra 500 miles!! We will try to catch Bryce on our way to Moab or perhaps while we are there! We are having a great time, smores and beverages by the fire tonight. My career took us on some really nice trips to resorts all over the US in warm climates, I have never been to the places we are seeing on this trip!! I feel very fortunate. My first time to Zion. Amazing!! Anyway, Beacon at Watchman Campground in Zion!!

We bought one of these collapsible awning hooks to grab things way under the tonneau cover. Works great for that. Figure it'll work in the basement, too. https://www.amazon.com/Camco-42544-Reach-Awning-Opener/dp/B003ZDERX0

We love our basement access door! We have a dog and two cats accompanying us and they all ride in the back seat of the truck in transit to our next destination - we utilize the basement to hold our chocks and set up equipment but once we are set up we set the empty crates in the truck bed and the basement is where the cat litter box goes - fits perfect, easy to access and clean daily, and the basement door stays open for the cats, only closing it long enough to clean the litter box. Works great for us and keeps the dog from getting into the mess.

Ours came with the Laguna table option. We only used it part of the time. Mostly I got tired of setting up the table, and then taking it down multiple times a day (every time I need into get into the nightstand drawer, and every night to go to sleep). I changed the table to side mount style. Now I just rotate the table to the side to get into the drawer, or rotate it over the night stand for sleep. The table never comes down, just raising and lowering the table to where I need it. So we use the table all the time. I may go with a custom table top that will give us a little extra table space. Now that the table is no longer in the way, I want to add the door added to access the rear bay. I want it use it for a clothes hamper. I use the larger section of the bay for water filter and water hoses. I do not like reaching all the way back into the bay. Pulling out a cloths basket/milk crate should be easier.

I can get three milk crates in my basement, 2 that are the 14"x19" long ones and 1 of the standard size ones, maybe 14"x14" ones, I would have to measure then to see. I also took a wood dowel and put a hook in the end to grab the crate that is pushed way to the back as you will not be able to reach in an grab it very easily. I will say here I have just gone to using the two larger crates as have the free space in the front works better for me and I find I do get more room for the quick needed things at the front. trainman

I'm personally not a fan of portable gas heaters, but everyone has to make their own decisions. Some are more efficient than others. Some emit more co and h2o than others. Some like Mr buddy, some like wave. With my tiny little dog, I'm not partial to either. I just leave the furnace on lowest setting, and reach over to turn it up in the morning, from bed. That little fan is really great, though, Topgun2! Love it!

The blocks that fell off are there because the "pioneers" like us, felt they were helpful. Not original equipment in the first generation. Not essential, but they do help reduce rub. We added them, circa 2011 or 2012. . A small tube of jb weld is probably 6 or 7 dollars. It's in our kit, anyway, for trailer and boat. Even so, if you would experience the same rare failure, I'm sure Oliver would reimburse you. They've always been decent and generous. Make sure you open a ticket, and get advice, before you launch out on your own, imo. Like others, I've not heard of this failure before. Anything can happen. Block placement is important, and jb weld is pretty permanent.

That's good to know. It looks like it would be useful for eating at or playing games.

I may go with the Lagun table side mount that someone here makes, but it seems most people don't use the table much. Foy makes a nice wooden table top so I may do that in the future.

Our cube heater has a dial thermostat..... as you rotate it, there will be a point when it turns from off to on. Made the mistake of turning a bit too far past that point on the first night we used it. Woke up at 3 in the morning and it was 85 degrees inside. Won't make that mistake again. Those little heaters are awesome to run when hooked up.

Hey Gang, Started doing some advance planning for a 2-4 week Florida trip (from WNC) thinking that about a year out would be good. But... guess I have to think again. We are pretty flexible about where we go... just want to get away from the cold a bit. Time frame would be Feb 2023. I find that just about every state park I look at is booked 11 months in advance. Any advice on how to navigate the state reservation system... Tips... Tricks... other sites or resources to explore would be much appreciated. Thanks in Advance, Scotty

We're preparing to sell our Ollie so I downloaded the current pricing worksheet to see what changes there are for 2022.. Checking off the options we have on our 2019 unit, it would cost over $10K more to buy it today. Still cheaper than an Airstream and better quality to boot.

On my 2016 Elite II the width (from the rear of the camper towards the front of the camper) right inside the outside basement door is - 35 1/2 inches. The width then narrows down to 26 inches. Note that these are the "maximum" measurements - due to the slope/curve of the hull, these measurements are a touch shorter when measured right at the floor level. Hopes this helps! Bill p.s. also not that the outside basement door opening as measured from the interior is 15 3/4 to 16 inches wide by 13 inches high.

I feel your pain. Even as a Florida resident, it's really hard to get reservations in the most popular parks, in February and March, our most popular tourist months. I've been told that there are folks who sit up til midnight every night to get on the system, just as the dates open up, 11 months out, and I actually believe it. I won't do that, and I doubt you'd want to, either. You won't be able to make any reservations for February 2023 til next month. Then, what you can do is look by "city" instead of a specific park, for the days you want. The popular parks may indeed be booked, but it will bring up availability in many other state parks. In my example, I was really surprised to see Anastasia open, but maybe because I was only looking for a one night stay. As you can see, results may not be all that close to the city you enter, but at least it's a place to start.

We like to sleep in a cool room, so your approach is what I would do.

We have the side mount Lagun with a custom top that looks similar to what Foy is making. Our is made from mahogany from a wooden boat builder. The table is very useful for us.

We have the interior basement door. We don't use it very much if at all. We did open it up when the temps got to the single digits. I have most of my water,electric, coax , and sewer materials in the basement in 2 of the elongated milk crates. Also some assorted tools. If you have a twin bed set up and want the factory Lagun table I don't believe you can have the basement door.

My experience over the last 6 years has been that Oliver goes above and beyond for warranty work. If a tube of epoxy is an issue, I’m sure they would reimburse or send a check for the glue. Mike

Yes. At $200 it's cheap enough to store small items that you want handy. Also, the basement is long. I usually keep an old fire poker and use it to hook the milk crates I use to store stuff. But, if you had something small that was tough to reach it might save you crawling into the basement. You have plenty of time to think about it. 50% deposit and final build list is mid July - ish. Sorry for taking the thread off into the cube heater woods.

No problem using. It’s a two-part epoxy (equal parts), and I didn’t buy their applicator— just squeezed out on a piece of plank, mixed and used a putty knife to apply to the blocks. Then I clamped each on—pretty easy to see where they went. Left clamped overnight, although probably don’t need that long. I did ruff up the two surfaces the epoxy went between with 80 grit sandpaper (didn’t overdo it). I doubt the remaining epoxy is any good, but haven’t checked. But I will and report back. PS: The Plexus is still good after a month and a half. The bottle only rates the shelf life from date of manufacture as 7 months though. It is pricey and I used about half. Frank

I find it useful for a hand held vacuum but I can't see using that door to access anything else that's stored farther back.

Here is a pic at Ft. Davis S.P., the pics doesn't show how steep it really was, as you can see it was a back in spot which would have put the tongue of the trailer some 4-5 foot in the air. Well like you said, many campsites are level and nice, I was just late in getting a good one. trainman

There have been numerous posts in this forum about Oliver’s lithium battery systems—about their usefulness, limitations, and value with respect to cost. Despite reasonable arguments against it, a number of us have purchased the lithium package. Reasons for purchasing the option have included the ability to run the air conditioner (A/C) for short durations (like at highway rest stops), greater usable energy (more boondocking in cloudy weather without needing a generator), faster charging, and longer battery life. This post summarizes things I’ve learned over the last 6 months about the Xantrex/Lithium/Zamp system. This post might also be titled “Things I Wish I’d Known from the Start.” This summary is a work in progress. Hopefully, with your corrections and additions, this thread will be of use to others that have purchased the Lithionics option or are considering doing so. At the time of this writing, manuals and other information for the Lithionics batteries are in the Service Center Knowledge Base — see links at the end of this post. I assume at some point Lithionics information will be compiled with all of the other trailer manuals in Oliver University. Battery State of Charge A key component of the Lithionics system is the app that lets users monitor State of Charge (SOC) and voltage (see links below). The reliability of the SOC values (which describes the amount of energy remaining in the battery) depends on (1) maintaining SOC calibration and having (2) up-to-date Lithionics firmware. The SOC should be near 100% at 13.6 volts, and about 50% (+/- about 10%) at 13.2 volts. If this is not what you’re seeing on the Zamp controller, Xantrex remote, or Lithionics battery app, then something’s wrong. By way of example, a couple times we’ve experienced the SOC readings of 60% when the batteries were dead -- not good. Note that the voltage reading on the app while there is a load on the system (e.g., electric heater) is different than when there is no load; the “resting” voltage may be higher. SOC Calibration The SOC requires periodic calibration. According to the manual for the 130 Ah batteries, the SOC can be calibrated simply by charging the batteries to 14.4 volts. The manual also states that fully charging the batteries to 14.4 volts should be done at least once every two weeks for battery life. Get the 130-Ah battery manual from Lithionics using the links below; at the time of this writing, Oliver has the incorrect manual posted in the Knowledge Base). When charging with shore power, it is not always apparent that the batteries have reached 14.4 volts, because when charging, the batteries only stay at ~14.4 volts for a short while before dropping back to about 13.6 volts. You can verify that batteries have reached 14.4 volts by monitoring battery voltage using the Lithionics app during a charging event. If you are unsure that the batteries are reaching 14.4 volts, you can at least confirm that the Xantrex charger/inverter is set to charge to at least 14.4 volts in the Xantrex app (https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/en/kb/articles/xantrex-remote-bluetooth-pair-operation) and, under Settings, check the custom absorption voltage. Ours came from the factory set at 14.6 volts, which is sufficiently high to get the batteries to 14.4 volts. Lithionics Firmware At least some of us that picked up our trailers in spring or early summer have batteries with outdated firmware. As I understand from Lithionics, more recent firmware versions have an improved SOC algorithm (our initial SOC readings were unreliable). You can check firmware version with the Lithionics app by clicking on a battery, then clicking on the settings “sprocket” in the upper right side, and then clicking on firmware. Our battery came with firmware version 1.0.05; I’ve recently updated to 1.0.07 by clicking on flash firmware. This has to be done with your phone in close proximity to the battery, and has to be done separately for each battery. Updating firmware comes with a “…this is a critical operation…” warning; you might want to check with Oliver or Lithionics if you have any questions about doing this. Has updating firmware improved our SOC readings? I’m not sure yet, but I think so. So far, the readings seem more reliable, but I’m still testing. SOC Calibration by Cycling A Lithionics rep told me that the SOC can be calibrated by “cycling” the batteries, and that this should be done every two months. Cycling consists of discharging the batteries to reserve voltage (e.g., ~12.1 volts) and then charging to 14.4 volts. However, the rep could not point to written documentation supporting this form of calibration. As the batteries support more partial cycles than full cycles (see graph below), calibrating by simply charging to 14.4 volts (assuming this effectively calibrates the SOC) seems better for battery life. Lithionics batteries will not charge from tow vehicle The standard 7-pin connection from tow vehicle to trailer cannot be used for charging the Lithionics batteries. Charging the batteries from the TV requires a DC to DC charger, which is an aftermarket installation. For more discussion on this, search for John Davies’ Redarc DC-to-DC charger installation description. Batteries Turn Off Twice now one or two of the three 130-Ah batteries have turned off when reaching low voltage (which happened because we were relying on incorrect SOC values). The SOC readings themselves looked OK, but the voltage did not correspond with SOC. The battery State in the Lithionics app reads “Off” for each battery when it is off. There is no flag on the Zamp or Xantrex control panel that alert the user to one or two batteries being off. The lesson (at least for me): monitor all three batteries, not just one, and note the Current, Power, State, and Status Code settings. If one or more batteries are off, turn the battery(ies) back on, and fully charge to 14.4 volts. Inverter Noise The Xantrex charger/inverter can be noisy charging the batteries with shore power (I’ve measured 60-64 decibels in the cabin when batteries are charging, and about 72 decibels adjacent to the inverter). The noise comes from (1) the charger/inverter fan and (2) the way in which the inverter is mounted (the fiberglass wall to which the inverter is mounted propagates noise into the cabin). The noise can be masked by turning on the A/C. Alternatively, the noise level can be reduced somewhat by lowering the charger current. In the Xantrex app, go to settings, and change the Charger Current from, for example, 100 amps to 30 amps. This will reduce fan noise. It will obviously take longer to charge the batteries with lower current. If you would like to be connected to shore power (to run an electric heater or the A/C, for example), but not charge the batteries (to avoid keeping them fully charged for long periods of time, or to reduce inverter noise) you can set the charger ignition control in the Xantrex app settings to “auto-on” (thanks to NCEagle for figuring this one out). In this mode shore power energizes the 110 outlets, the A/C, and the fridge, but does not charge the batteries. Turn the charger ignition control “off” to resume charging batteries with shore power. There are likely ways of re-mounting the inverter so that noise does not propagate into the cabin, with either a different mounting location or perhaps mounts using rubber bushings. Has anyone tried this yet? Xantrex Communication Errors Too often, I’ve gotten “Code 20” communication errors on the Xantrex remote panel. This can be resolved by pushing the red button on the 300A breaker under the streetside bed, waiting for at least 30 minutes, and then pressing in the little red flag on the breaker. Yes, this is a pain (I wish this breaker were more accessible), but it usually resolves the issue. Leaving the Xantrex inverter on battery mode for 25 hours or more will result in the Code 20 communication error. The time limit can be changed in the Xantrex app, but cannot be lengthened to more than 25 hours. As long as the inverter has not timed out, turning the inverter off and then on again at the remote panel resets the 25-hour time-limit clock. Battery Storage Lithionics provides guidance for storing the lithium batteries (see link below). Long term storage can include lowering the SOC to about 50%. Discharging to the appropriate SOC can be accomplished by turning on an electrical load (e.g., A/C or space heater) while in battery mode and monitoring frequently. Theoretically one could set the inverter cutoff voltage (in the inverter app, under settings), to something like 13.2 volts, but the highest cutoff-voltage option is 12.8 volts. Lithionics recommends keeping a log of SOC and voltage readings prior to and after storage for warranty purposes. ------------------------ Hope this helps. Again, please correct any errors that you see, and please add your observations and tips. Fritz ------------------------------------------ Relevant Links Lithionics battery app: https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/api/kbArticles/386680000012415191/locale/en/attachments/lpqvx861bbc9c842d48f7995281b07d0a193d/content?portalId=edbsnfe5dceb1ade7571879ff200cb63e14a94b62f48e3338c31a6401acd00130b0bc&inline=true). Lithionics battery manual: At the time of this writing, the Oliver Knowledge Base has links to Lithionics manuals for 125 Ah and 320 Ah batteries. However, our LE2 has three 130 Ah batteries as part of the 390-Ah package, and the manuals for the 125-AH batteries and the 130-Ah batteries are not the same. A manual for the 130 Ah battery can be found on the Lithionics website: https://lithionicsbattery.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12V130-G31LRBM8-Battery-User-Guide-R1.pdf. Lithionics Storage Procedure https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/api/kbArticles/386680000012415191/locale/en/attachments/lrotz3ebee5a7020f42a58eb0d4db18a41356/content?portalId=edbsnfe5dceb1ade7571879ff200cb63e14a94b62f48e3338c31a6401acd00130b0bc&inline=true Lithionics FAQs https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/api/kbArticles/386680000012415191/locale/en/attachments/lrotz0edc34bc92ef4dce941bbb7f3f2d89db/content?portalId=edbsnfe5dceb1ade7571879ff200cb63e14a94b62f48e3338c31a6401acd00130b0bc&inline=true Xantrex Remote Bluetooth Pairing and Operation https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/en/kb/articles/xantrex-remote-bluetooth-pair-operation

Back before my Oliver days I bought a Little Buddy propane heater (like THIS ONE ). I've used every year while camping and recently added a fan (like THIS ONE ). Unless it is VERY cold (below 25) I don't like using the onboard furnace at night - it keeps me awake and it uses both propane and electricity. So, early in the morning when nature calls, I get up, take care of the most important business and then quickly light the heater before jumping back into bed. Easily within a half hour the Ollie is warm enough to actually get up and get dressed. After seeing these wood stove fans for a number of years I thought that one just might work on the Little Buddy since it does not have a way to move heated air from one end of the Ollie to the other. Well - it works! No batteries, no plugging it in, it simply uses the heat from the Little Buddy to actually create enough electric power to run the fan. This, in turn, really helps move the air from the front of the Ollie to the back. I did purchase a long propane hose for the heater so that I could use my 20 pound tanks versus the rather expensive 1 pound green bottles. But, I've only used that hose once. The 1 pound bottles will last about 4 to 5 days of heating each day and there are places out West (like Yellowstone) that actually recycle these bottles. Bill

I think there will be some sad customers that remained on the fence for the new model year. The past two years have been doozies for inflation related price increases.

There are also sites where you can have them alert you to "open" sites. I've used Wanderinglabs.com twice with positive results both times even though the campground that I was trying to reserve was originally booked solid. Good luck! Bill note - Wanderinglabs.com does not make a reservation for you but only alerts you that a campsite has become available. You still have to call or go online to make the actual reservation yourself. I assume that the similar sites work in a like manner.

If you have your heart set on that particular heater, I'm pretty sure the tan one sold at west marine is the Caframo, under their store label. I was in West marine a few days ago for a blower, but likely I'll be there again sometime this month. If there's a heater in stock, I'll turn it over and see if it says "made in Canada" on the label. If so, it would pretty much clinch the Caframo manufacture. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--portable-cabin-heater--7867500?cm_mmc=PS-_-Google-_-GSC>Brand%20(LIA)-_-7867500&product_id=7867500&creative=504872101344&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQiAjc2QBhDgARIsAMc3SqQKPpqtlmXoe29Vy-RpmmBwQxBVhxAXZty_pZ6ZGzR6rA6XHrMGDK8aAllLEALw_wcB

I wouldn’t just limit your search to state parks. Yes they are less expensive that’s why they’ll all full. There are many private Rv parks and resorts in just about every county. I used to live full time at (The Great Outdoors) in Titusville. A little pricey but great amenity’s, golf, restaurant, church, mail facilities two pools, pickle ball, nature trails the list goes on. And if you get the right site you’ll see all the rocket launcher’s from your site. Don’t get discouraged there’s plenty’s of places to stay in Florida. 😎

I have been able to run both of my dual fuel generators in the same manner, either directly to a propane tank or the OTT’s QC ports. The following has been posted a few times on Oliver FBs in response to others requesting pertinent information: To answer your question, alter the two stage regulator system that comes with most dual fuels by installing a QC between the first stage (primary) and second stage (secondary) regulators. When utilizing the Oliver’s QC for propane, the primary regulator is removed and only the secondary is needed to operate the genny within reach of a hose. I typically pass an extension hose connected to the Oliver’s front QC through the access port on the front tank housing and stage the genny on the trailer tongue, TV tailgate or ground. If you want to connect directly to one of the trailer’s tanks or a spare, you simply utilize the two stage regulator by rejoining with the QC. Attached photos show the divided regulator and secondary stage only being used to operate generator by an extension hose from the OTT’s front QC. Additional info: I too have the Westinghouse iGen4500DF and find on long hose runs to have the regulators close to the generator with use of an extension hose when spanning directly from a propane tank to the generator.

Trainman, I think you’re misunderstanding what we’re discussing scissor jacks for. This heavy duty scissor jack is to lift one side of the Ollie completely off the ground for flat tire changes & wheel bearing maintenance using the labeled lift points on the Oliver frame. I’m not using this heavy duty scissor jack for stabilizing the trailer while camping. I do use the onboard stabilizer jacks as intended to prevent rocking of the camper when set up at a campsite. Oliver recommends AGAINST using the onboard stabilizer jacks to lift the trailer completely for tire changes, etc. although some owners have been known to do that.

I don't have to get on my hands and knees, but I do try to be sure I don't bang the door handle on the floor, don't want it to get scuffed up over time. This heater is very compact and has worked well for us: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004473UK2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Southern Utah is hit and miss this time of year, weather wise. We had 60s during the days last month when we were at Zion, it was gorgeous weather and scenery. Don’t leave the park in your truck, it will take hours to get back in! You can walk out and do some things and walk back in from Watchman, but don’t drive. Don’t ask me how I know! Mike

OMGoodness. After reading this thread I decided to get up on the roof, remove the A/C cover, and gaze at the many ways a bird, or mud-dauber, or frog, or whatever, could end up under the cover. I'll be busy screening today! John

I've got a small "cube" ceramic heater for when I'm on shore power. There are a number of owners that have a small Vornado but the ceramic heater is even smaller but is still 1500 watts - more than enough to nicely heat up the Oliver. Bill

Because of the slope of the top of the heater housing and to get the most heat on the bottom of the fan - note how I attached the fan to the "grill" on the front of the heater with the rear of the fan resting on the top of the heater housing. It works great in this position and does not vibrate off the top of the heater. Bill

That sounds useful. It's not a terribly expensive option (in the grand scheme). What heater do you have? I read that some people have a Vornado heater that they can plug in when they have power. Maybe yours just fits the dimensions of that spot, maybe it goes into a milk crate. Those crates are popular in that basement it appears.

We store 2 things via the "basement" interior door: our small electric heater when not in use, and the laundry bag. When the bag gets relatively full on a long trip, we move it to the truck and get out a new bag. Perfect spot for that purpose.

I just tested the lower frame of the A/C unit. It's magnetic. I have a few old magnets from hard drives I can place on the screen inside. It would stay in place even in a hurricane.

Frank - Any issues with using the Plexus? Did you have any remaining and if so how long did it last before any of it went "bad".

We had a site so unlevel at Davis Mountains State Park I ended up backing in across the grass and parking sideways in the site. I tried the normal way but had the front jack completely extended with blocks. It didn’t look safe at all. Here’s a grainy long distance picture of us sideways in the site. Under the trees to the left is another Oliver, @mountainoliver. Not all sites are that bad, we’ve had a couple of others that were fine, we took these sites so we could camp next to our fellow Oliver owners. It’s nice to have a trailer small enough to fit into weird sites (even sideways) and still be big enough to be comfortable.

Same problem in the same AC vent when we were in Moab last year. The little birds were persistent. I’d clear out the twigs every day and they would start again right away. The only thing that kept them away was running the air conditioner. I’m planning to add some screening over the vents before we venture out for this year’s trips.

Certainly a small air conditioner is a bunch cheaper and a bunch easier to buy and put on/take off as compared to a CalMark cover for the entire Oliver! 😁 Bill

Jim and Chris Neuman raise a good point: choice of mattress matters with the Standard Floor Plan. My wife likes a soft bed and I like a really firm one. We use a Sleep Number Bed at home, with her side at 35 and mine at 100! When tent camping, we take an inflatable mattress for her and just a Thermarest for me. So, our initial plan with the Elite II is to use an inflatable air mattress for her side, and just the seat cushions on my side. When we need to access the valves or breakers under the rear seating platforms, or get to the overhead cabinets, we plan to flip the air mattress up against the wall.

The Agile adapter is reversible. Flat on one face and curved on the other so it can also be used for lifting on an axle tube. The gear reduction seems to be about 3 or 4 to 1, so it definitely increases the amount of cranking, but the jack is pretty tall to start with, especially with the Agile block on top, and the ratchet handle makes for pretty quick work when raising.

Any issues with ventilation and moisture buildup? I have been considering getting one of the heaters, the extra fan is very nifty! John Davies Spokane WA

Old Bisbee Brewing Company is a good stop for a beverage!

The obstruction under the fridge is a gas barrier. That entire compartment is supposed to be completely blocked from the rest of the cabin, in case there is a propane leak. OTH there is no reason you can’t cut an access hole in the panel. John Davies Spokane WA

I am also. Our delivery date is November 7 so we have until mid August to finalize options.

Interesting comment Fairmontrvpark! We are leaning toward the truma.

So, this prompted an earnest discussion with DW tonight. Specifically, would we want to trade that kitchen cabinet space for the bigger fridge? In the end, probably not. We think that the current 4.5 cf will be enough for the two of us and cabinet storage is always precious. But that Truma A/C? That's another story. I'd give my eye teeth to have one of those on our trailer when we take delivery in August.