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Made it! Took it slow and it was all good. The spring is flat like a pancake, but it held. The Nissan Titan pulls it well and I'm pretty sure will be a great towing platform. Although I am puzzled as to exactly why you need to keep the speed 50mph or below for the first 500 towing miles for break in. Thanks everyone for the advice. Sure do appreciate it. Also... The place I took it to, RV Services in Asheville looks like a good shop. They have two Oliver owners that store their trailers with them. Will give a better review after the work is done. Thanks again, Scotty

These are designed for lifting the good wheel on a dual axle trailer to mount the spare on the other. I don't believe if you have a pair of these that one would fit between the two tires as needed to level one side, as the Oliver dual axles are spaced closely to each other. Amazon.com: ANDERSEN HITCHES | RV Accessories | Single Rapid Jack | 3620 : Automotive I've had an old aluminum version of this since the 90s. I used it to change a spare tire or two on the road since. Not sure why I've been carrying this, as the Oliver has power stabilizer jacks that can be used to mount the spare. I should just keep it on our flatbed trailer. Amazon.com: EZ-Jack Combination Jack and Wheel Chock for Dual Axllee Trailers - 20,000 Lb Cap. EZ-Jack EZJACK : Automotive

Gave it to the tech who switched them out

I have the Rapid Jack and a regular Andersen leveler. I purchased an extra chock directly from Andersen. I tend to find the best campsites that are always unlevel!

Earlier this year we had a discussion about what to do if you had to run on just one tire on one side of an OE2. Below was some thoughts. If you must, then having some blocking under the good axle to carry additional load maybe a workable solution to eliminanate any fiberglass damage. Going slow is also paramount. DIY - Two Flat Tires On An OE2.docx

My most inconvenient time to discuss 'Our Oliver" is when I am dumping/flushing. I was derailed in thought once, with a subsequent issue... Now I just ask if they would mind waiting until after I complete the dumping/rinsing process, they usually do not stick around. B~Out,

Yes, I close the drain valve. From my experience, I want the antifreeze in there as you can never get all the water out of the tank. In the spring, it is all flushed out and the tank disinfected.

Hopefully, these will be available in the US one of these days, or the shipping from the UK is reasonable. These would come in really handy for cleaning up some of the sloppy wiring we've all found. https://quickfixjb.co.uk/

Is there any way to combine the black tank with the grey tank? I have a composting toilet and could really use the extra storage the black tank could provide. Thank you.

I use a 12volt pump, kind of cheap and manual, but I hook it to the output for dumping, and then connect to the spray port on the black tank. I do have a fine mesh filter on the pump so no debree gets stuck in the sprayers. I have used it when we are boondocking greater than 4 days.

We love the under mattress storage option!!! We first saw this in Steve and Tali's OTT, wondering if that can be available as a FIY, do you know @ScubaRx?

I see where your batteries were 61/62°, what was the outside ambient temperature? Trying to comprehend such as minimal battery drawdown with an hour of use; perhaps the fans were mostly running and not the compressor due to cold conditions. Also, I noticed in the video that the interior cover is mounted with the control panel end facing rearward, whereas most installations viewed has it facing forward, as specified in the installation Manual. Did you specify that orientation? I would think said panel would be much more accessible if turned around, especially with the bed in the OLEl. Regardless, the Atmos is an amazing upgrade, I share your enthusiasm!

Never seen a leaf break this way! What junk Dexter sells. We should not have to replace leaf springs, bearings, and other major parts of these trailer axles! It’s only a 7K lb occasional use travel trailer. I would hire the mobile repair guy. I would not be a customer of a service center that cannot schedule a date and get it back same or next day. They need 2 weeks, give me an appointment in 2 weeks. That’s BS.

Camping at the Dinosaur National Monument, at the Green River campground, and couldn't eat on time because of the people wandering by saying "Is that an Oliver?" or "What kind of trailer is that?" I think most folks had already eaten and were doing their after dinner walkabout, but I got back late after hiking in the desert. Of course I'm not going to blow them off because I LOVE talking about my trailer. I had hoped to eat outside and watch the sunset but nope, by the time all the interested parties were gone, it was dark and I'm eating inside. I might have part of the blame for this.

Probably thinking this:

You and me both and I live in Texas, home of tumbleweeds and flatlanders.

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Ours broke while in transit. We had no choice but to drive it very slowly about 12 miles as the nearest company with flatbed towing capability was 3 hours away. It caused no additional damage that we are aware of.

I have been using this hose with a quick connect fitting and I love it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0894GMDWP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I made mine out of leftover Pex pipe and the needed fittings. Mossey

There are a few members here that had this experience and could chime in. From what I remember in the 22 pages before, these failures have not caused other real damage. Nothing you can do but to go get the work done. It's a short distance so pick the best route to go slowly, maybe skip the highway unless it is nicely paved, which is hard to find these days.

Good in a pinch but not enough volume for us. We have one of the old hulls where OTT messed up the FWT installation. The suction hose only reaches to the half-point level of the tank. We consistently get only 18 gallons from our FWT when the water pump starts gurgling! Oliver offers the repair and too bad visits by prior owners in 2018 and 2020 to Hohenwald and nobody thought to fix this! We may get there one day, but in the meantime... With our TSC 35-gal potable water tank we can refill the FWT twice, so we get about 54 gallons total after a fill. When TV and TT are hitched, I use the 25 FT hose and 10 FT hose we travel with to make the connection. Took a call to Norwesco to order the hoop mounts: Norwesco 35 gal. Horizontal Leg Tank at Tractor Supply Co. I custom fit a cover to keep the sun off the tank and water: Amazon.com : Dokon Heavy Duty Patio Ottoman Covers Waterproof Outdoor Ottoman Cover Anti-UV Patio Side Table Cover, Patio Furniture Covers with Air Vent, Rectangle (28"L x 22"W x 17"H) - Black : Patio, Lawn & Garden Boondocking with 54 gallons of fresh water, we can last over a week or until the black tank is full.

I do that smile thing too sometime though I think it often comes off like this: I do my best to be sociable but I have to accept that I am more of an introvert. My wife is good for me though because she is the ultimate extrovert. She doesn't know a stranger.

So sorry for your loss but how exciting to order a new Oliver! I went through a whole process with National General Insurance for Agreed Value and it took forever. I hope in the event of a loss of our ILOVHER that the insurance will be there. Good to note all of your documentation was helpful.

So sorry for the loss but happy there was a good ending.

I missed you Jason, glad to see you posting again! 🤣 I got the grumpy look too, but I put a big smile on and talk to everyone we see on the road. Sometimes Chris says, "Are you about done?" We love to take pics with all the different and often strange travelers we meet!

The people at OTT are some of the nicest, down to earth people. It would be easy to lose the kindness with a big business and I have known several who have, but they remain good folks.

I didn't take a look inside the additional storage, but, it certainly did look like it would be similar to the rear bumper area. I felt fortunate enough to be allowed to take pictures of the interior. Bill

People don't usually approach me with questions. My wife says I scare people because I look grumpy. They talk to her all the time, so I just stand off to the side with my resting cranky face.

I am so glad no one was hurt, at least physically. The emotional trauma will last for a while yet. I have seen so many accidents in my life that they don't even get my heart rate up anymore, but for most people, they are exceptionally stress inducing. I can't wait to see pictures of your new OTT in the wild.

Congrats on your install and getting rid of your “Demonic penguin”. You’re going to love being able to talk on the phone, not use ear plugs to sleep, watch a little tele or listen to some music. Great mod! What BTU is the Atmos? Where you able to use the original condensate inner hull OEM Olive drain lines? Just as an FYI I sold my Demonic to a guy who needed an AC unit for his food truck. I put it on FB market place and it sold in 3 hrs for $600.00.

Did I say ordered? I did! That is incorrect. We put down money on one of the showroom demos. We are/will be owners of #1550. And going back to lessons learned: We were insured with Safeco for replacement cost. But, we only get the replacement cost IF we purchase a NEW "similar" unit. And that money goes straight to the dealer. If we never buy, we only get the valuation. That's why the valuation was so important. I believe another consideration for everyone is that with ~ 2000 units out there and with more on the market, a good first cut valuation is much easier for the insurance companies. Finally - on the long 6 hour drive home after the accident, the traumatic events settled on us and became real. We had lost a central part of our retirement plan in just a few seconds! The "what next?" question finally came up. I won't lie - we talked about the options of more room or a fridge that you can access without sitting on the floor. We quickly came to our senses and realized that if we were ever in a similar situation again - we wanted to be in an Oliver. By the time we got half way home we were dreaming of the quiet Truma A/C!

Yes - avoided a head on.

How sad, seeing your Ollie 'laying down'. It's like a family member being wounded. Glad no human or pet was injured. Thanks for posting this for all to learn from.

Glad to hear everyone is okay and thanks for sharing your lessons learned! Mike

I'm so sorry that you have had to go through this ordeal but I'm glad to hear that no human was hurt in the accident. Its also nice to hear (but not surprising) that Oliver was a great help to you. I keep telling people that I've never dealt with a finer group of people/company. For me, they are really what makes the Oliver Travel Trailer so special. From your picture above, it appears as though the Oliver basically remained in tact. Were there any cracks in the exterior or other signs or major structural damage - of course I'm assuming that the exterior was roughed up a bit and I noticed the odd angle of that axle. Additional pictures would be of interest if you can share them since there have been relatively few Ollies involved in major accidents. Bill

There are some good comments so far. It was interesting to learn that some solar panels were not meeting their rated capacity, and the sun doesn’t always cooperate either. This is a positive for the DC to DC charger because they have a more reliable output. It was also good to hear that others run their ac off the DC to DC charger, this is a strong selling point IMO. Yes I was disappointed when the 50 amp Victron charger came out after I installed the 30 amp, it’s way improved in efficiency, thus reduced heat. I'm surprised that OTT is not using it. On the bright side, the 30 amp uses smaller gauge wire, but I think a cooling fan is still needed because it starts derating at 104 degrees. This could be less than ambient air temperature when you'd want to run the ac, and you could run down the battery faster if the charger output is not 100%. From what I've seen with the 50 amp specs, this should't be an issue. This raises another important point that trailer folks should be aware of. Most of the DC to DC chargers are used in camper-vans and boats with short wire runs to the alternator, and the multitude of videos and wire specifications reflect that. However, trailer installations have much longer wire runs, typically around 50 feet one way, so they will require larger wire to minimize voltage drop. Even the Victron 50 amp is sized for maximum #4 wire, which would be too small for most trailer applications. Alternator capacity was not something I've given much thought to, because mine was something over 200 amps. It’s good idea to check your'e alternator rating by looking up the alternator code or use an on-line VIN decoder. I believe most newer trucks are at least a 100 amps or more. TV voltage errors should’t be a concern because Victron has safeguards to shut down in low voltage conditions, and they are designed to work with smart alternators that are constantly adjusting output for better fuel economy. Cheers! Geoff

@Galway Girl would you mind posting the contact info for new pins. I would like to order a few spares and surely others may as well. Many Thanks!

In his usual style of excellent service, Jason Essary has already answered my email to him from this afternoon. Here is what he had to say: "I don't have exact information on it but I would say that it has 5k springs. Jim typically as soon as one of his units was built had 5,000lb axles and springs ordered for it. I would guess that it is just the same Dexter axles because that's what we did on his 2017 model. He typically always loaded his units up with extra stuff that made them extremely heavy." I'd add to this that Mr. Oliver did this because he thought that if he or his family might like a particular or product in/on the trailer then we (present and future owners of the Oliver Travel Trailer) might like it too. For instance - the counter tops and spice rack that are in the pictures I recently posted are actually made of a product called Corian. It looks a lot like Oliver's fiber granite but it is much heavier. He and a few other early buyers of these fine trailers did a bunch of the early "testing" of the basic products we all now enjoy. Bill

I'll send an email to Jason Essary to see if he can add any information on this subject. With all due respect to Scott Oliver, I don't think he would necessarily know the details. Bill

Your math is close enough in theory. Though roof-mounted panels, flat to the horizon, are not getting near 340W. Ours often charge at net 12A, even in the Arizona sun. Our new 400W Renogy Suitcase when aimed directly at the sun got 366W at best one time and more often was between 200 and 300W. The Victron 30A SC has showed 20+ amps charging, where theoretical max is 33A. Starlink and other electronics, and the Oliver LED 12V lighting take so little power. Running cooking appliances, the A/C and a blow dryer is another story. I've been running A/C all week on only rooftop solar, but fall has broken up here at 5400 FT and the weather is wonderful lately. We do want to run A/C on inverter when it's hot after an efficient A/C upgrade. Running A/C when towing is a lot of drain, given sun and wind pulling the cool in your wake down the highway! I worry about charging via the TV. I would only do so with the kind of upgrade that Ron made. OEM alternators are not designed to push out another 30-50A. Trucks today have complex ECUs and you don't want voltage-related error codes affecting fuel injectors and ignition. @Snackchaser I read your DC-DC upgrade post (very nice work). I believe at the start of 2024 only the Victron 30A was available. The newer 50A is much more efficient, producing less heat, half the size, no large heat sink attached and likely no need for adding a fan. See video @rideadeuce added to my question post: Choosing a DC-DC Charger - Ollie Modifications - Oliver Owner Forums (olivertraveltrailers.com) Lastly when traveling, we I go out of our way to drive only 2-3 hours between stops and generally not more. We like to maximize time at the campsite vs. time on the highway. Some of you drive a lot of hours in a day where this is more useful. I will likely add a DC-DC charger but went the suitcase route first because of this. When adding this capability, you should consider the cost of the charger, another $150+ for 4 AWG cables and connectors, plus the cost of an aftermarket high-output alternator, to do it right. Victron Energy ORI121217040 Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC battery charger | Powerwerx

And, then, there was the Wally Bee. Looks a bit like a UK fiberglass trailer of its time but, hey, it's very cool. Aluminum was cheaper, back in the day. Fiberglass was a newer, expensive process https://www.airstream.com/blog/airstreams-foray-into-fiberglass/

Airstream used slightly damaged aluminum panels in the Argosy line and the white paint helped hide the imperfections. They also had either fiberglass or molded plastic end caps. One big negative for some buyers: Argosy owners were not allowed in the Wally Byam Airstream club.

Or, maybe even something like this one? This is a 1992 Airstream Land Yacht

Airstream also built an Argosy motorhome and Argosy fifth-wheel.

Fun fact, Airstream once had a trailer that was painted white called an Argosy.

I also enjoy talking to folks about our Oliver. The only exception is when I’m backing in to a site with Carol standing back there for directions and someone stops me to have a discussion. It’s happened more times than I’d like. Usually I ask them to hang on for a few seconds so I can finish backing in. Only once did the person leave and not want to finish the discussion. Mike

I believe that the the "Airstream" question is a result of the general look/shape of the Ollie vs the Airstream. My normal response to the "Airstream" question is, "No, it doesn't leak like an Airstream".😁 Bill

An all too common experience for Oliver owners, but then it’s nice to be noticed! I also get “Is that a Casita?”, it’s easy to point out the similarities; but then someone once asked “Is that an Airstream?”, to which I had no reasonable response!

For anyone that has an Oliver Service appointment during the first three weeks of September, the "Beast" should still be located in the Service Department area. After that, Scott Oliver will probably take the "Beast" to his home. Bill